Lee Perry and his absurd obsession with farm animals

[Herbsman.]

As opposed to the OP, which addresses one of the fundamental burning issues of our time.

If it you found it so uninteresting then why get involved?

 

[sojourner]

It's just the fact that your input on this thread is completely pointless, so why bother? Were/are you bored? I don't understand why you thought your off-topic pedantry necessary, and I don't understand why anyone else took notice and made the time and effort to start such a pointless argument.

Welcome to urban










yes yes I know you've been here a while, but a month isn't quite long enough to really lose the irritation of derails and see them as an entertainment all of their own

 

[phildwyer]

If it you found it so uninteresting then why get involved?

I did find it interesting, being a longtime Scratch fan. I just found the interjections equally interesting.

 

[Herbsman.]

I bet Donna Ferentes cries at night when he thinks about all the improper use of the English language that is going on. I can just imagine it: "boo hoo, someone used a word where it shouldn't have been used, oh my god, what am I going to do? My whole world is falling apart, boo hoo!"

 

[mikeinworthing]

lol

But you have to remember his tagline:

Fighting stupidity on U75

Note mine

 

[phildwyer]

Note mine

You're so proud of it that you had to point it out? "Note mine, note mine, please note mine... I can by funny and clever too honest, note mine, note mine...." Fool.

 

[Orang Utan]

You are a silly person, Mr Dwyer. Please go away.

 

[phildwyer]

You are a silly person, Mr Dwyer. Please go away.

Not until you note mine.

 

[mikeinworthing]

You're so proud of it that you had to point it out? "Note mine, note mine, please note mine... I can by funny and clever too honest, note mine, note mine...." Fool.

Whatever

A personal attack again is noted.

 

[phildwyer]

A personal attack again is noted.

Note mine! Note mine!

 

[sojourner]

How the fuck old are you lot eh? It's like supervising playgroup on this thread

 

[Orang Utan]

Not until you note mine.

Note your what?

 

[Herbsman.]

So, is it too late to get back to the original topic

 

[phildwyer]

Note your what?

My nothing. Note Mikeinworthing's tagline. He really, really, wants you to. He thinks its funny.

 

[phildwyer]

So, is it too late to get back to the original topic

Not at all, go ahead.

 

[Dirty Martini]

Perry's farmyard interjections might have something to do with the fact that he grew up in the countryside. Or maybe not.

It's alright to call him a genius though. He made pure, gutsy, complex music that virtually ran Jamaican music for a few years and still sounds amazing.

 

[Mallard]

Perry's farmyard interjections might have something to do with the fact that he grew up in the countryside. Or maybe not.

It's alright to call him a genius though. He made pure, gutsy, complex music that virtually ran Jamaican music for a few years and still sounds amazing.

Indeed they're great and more prevalent during his fantastic Black Ark phase. You can't knock The Upsetter imo.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

It's just the fact that your input on this thread is completely pointless, so why bother?

Well, it wasn't. My gripe wasn't with an individual misuse of a word: if that concerned me I would be kept very busy indeed. My wider complaint is that people commenting on popular music seem unable to discuss it without frequent, indeed habitual recourse to hyperbole, which I consider unhelpful to rational discussion. It's also that the same people tend to be thoroughly intolerant when it is suggested that they exaggerate, which habit is also unhelpful to rational discussion. If somebody thinks Mr Perry is a genius, and I query this, why not just make the bloody case? I see another poster has now attempted to do so: all credit to them, I ask no more. But I have no time for people who want a one-sided discussion in which they proclaim what's "genius", what's "cool" and so on and then start screaming when somebody else disagrees.

(Of course, the whole reason for the intolerance is the low standard of the argument: there is no other way to back it up.)

 

[Herbsman.]

You didn't query anything, you simply said "I doubt this." without saying why.

You say you have no time for people who want a one-sided discussion in which they proclaim what's genius... If you have no time for such people then why not ignore what they're saying?

It seems like you're getting upset for no reason. It wasn't even a serious discussion, but you're taking it way too seriously. Just because someone called someone else a genius. How could you get so upset over something so insignificant? It's not as if people were insulting your mother.

If the comment had been written in a magazine by a professional music journalist, I'd understand why you're so bothered.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

You simply said "I doubt this."

How could you get so upset

?

 

[Herbsman.]

?

Ok, so, you've resorted to using single punctuation marks instead of actually saying anything. That really makes sense...

As for the thread, well, your life must be as boring and empty as mine is at the moment. I sympathise. At least we've got something in common.

*unsubscribes*

 

[pk]

No, it's just that there are far more interesting things to be doing than pontificating on the exact definition of the word genius, especially when I started a thread about animal noises.

Like the ones your mother makes?

 

[Orang Utan]

Like the ones your mother makes?

Yep, just like that. How did you know?

 

[pk]

Abuse and hyperbole - it's the wonderful world of rock 'n' roll.

<snip>

 

[pk]

Yep, just like that. How did you know?

Only joshing.

 

[phildwyer]

Have you actually ever heard "Follow Me" by Jam and Spoon, Donna Bloke Whos Real Name Appears In His Profile But Gets All Pissy When Anyone Uses It On Here Cunt Ferentes?

If so - you'd be happy to tell everyone what the main structure of the tune builds up to, right?

If you'd heard it once you would know what I meant.

So lets have it Donna Kebab, have you ever actually heard the fucking record or not?

And you can report this post for all you are worth, "Donna", because it's all you're good for, you dull transparent cock.

You don't know what you're talking about here, and you hate that, too much time playing chess and putting on a posh accent and believing that you and only you possess some kind of true "genius" - whilst everyone else was out having fun.

Awww, diddums.

I'll probably get banned for this post - were it not for the fact that I'm absolutely right, I wouldn't give a fuck anymore.

If this place is going to accommodate your fucking sneering, Donna, then it'll cope with my calling you a monochrome mutt-rutter whenever you choose to talk the shit you so clearly are.

Tosspot.

PK, a word to the wise. And you. You shame yourself with these drunken tirades. You make yourself ridiculous.

 

[Neva]

PK, a word to the wise. And you. You shame yourself with these drunken tirades. You make yourself ridiculous.

I think his points a pretty good one actually. If Donna Ferentes hasn't heard the track in question then it's pretty pathetic to dismiss it out of hand because of his own absurd prejudices against a particular genre of art.

He did a similar thing in that thread on festivals and lost that argument pretty badly if I recall.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

on festivals and lost that argument pretty badly if I recall.

Actually I recall very little argument at all: mostly the usual string of abuse leavened by one fallacious proposition. In particular it could have made no logical sense to insist, simultaneously, that:

1. all knowledge that can't be proven is subjective and therefore just the opinion of individuals ;

2. the person making this claim can "win" an argument.

But this is elementary.

(Actually, this isn't entirely true: there were some valuable points made about genres such as folk and jazz which stand between popular and classical music, and also about music in pre-capitalist societies. But this stuff kind of got lost in the screaming and name-calling, which is really my whole point.)

 

[phildwyer]

I think his points a pretty good one actually.

Any point he might be making is utterly lost beneath his pathetic hard-man posturing.

 

[Neva]

Well personally I thought there were a lot of good points made in that thread, mainly by yourself and Dubversion. There was a hell of a lot of personal abuse as well which is out of order of course but despite that it was one of the better threads at the time.