na.. takes someone special to tell them white folk how the minorities live & ting & ting..
Lee (grapser?) Jasper resigns
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na.. takes someone special to tell them white folk how the minorities live & ting & ting..
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The unfortunate (for you) truth is that if corruption existed on the scale you imply, then it'd be impossible to cover up, even with Arthur Andersen as your accountants.
You really should stop trying to elevate your deeply unpleasant personal animus into some kind of holy crusade.
untethered
For industry & decency
It also puts the incumbent of this exalted office in a great position to understand the experiences of people that suffer from discrimination and inequality.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
untethered
For industry & decency
Poor metaphor. Andersens didn't do a very good job of covering up. My money would go to the other big auditors that are still in business, their clients' evasions still successfully hidden.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
No but he is the least worst electable option sadly.
You are probably right on that one but society has moved on since then and such bollocks is less acceptable on the whole.
Then again, following a precedent established by both previous central governments can't really be quantified as "doing something wrong", given how many decades this has happened for without people being hounded by the daily press.
I absolutely agree!
However just because central govt following shonky process doesn't mean everyone else should.
It would be better to strive for full transperency on all deals and awards of money.
Being very involved with a Local Council procurement at the moment, I am extrememly mindful of the implications of FOI on any decisions made and are following a procurement code which is so transparent it's almost stifling.
This is our money being spent, we have a right to know how the process works and that the money being spent is audited fully - at whatever level in the public sector.
Just shouting 'smear!' at an allegation is not the correct response imo.
Evidence! Prove the Standard wrong!
The man is an absolute odius cunt imo
Once tried to do all the "Do you know who I am ?" crap to try and embarrass me infront of a crowd of bigwig mates.
Utter tosser hope he goes down in some way for this.
Once tried to do all the "Do you know who I am ?" crap to try and embarrass me infront of a crowd of bigwig mates.
Utter tosser hope he goes down in some way for this.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Jasper, arsehole and all-round unpleasant knob-end as he is (and I met him often enough in the eighties to be able to make such a character assessment, unlike many), is "suitably qualified" for the job, in fact his position is/was mostly based on the fact (as Diane Abbott made clear a couple of years back on "This Week") that he has an unparalleled network of contacts in the minority communities of Greater London, not on his friendship with the Mayor.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Andersens did as good a job as any. It was the fact that one of their customers tanked that buggered them (and also highlighted just how poor audit and accountancy practices are virtually worldwide).
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Of course.
Unfortunately, all too often central govt practiced gets followed on a "sauce for the goose..." basis, leaving dual carriageway-wide avenues for journos to explore and infer corruption from, even when the actual practice is non-corrupt and entirely down to stupidity.
I'd love to see that happen, I'd also love there to be effective and enforcable sanctions that would stop anyone who considered practicing a bit of opaqueness in their tracks.
Again, I totally agree.
The convention is usually for the party making the claim(s) (in this case the Standard) to prove their accusations to be accurate.
The convention is usually for the party making the claim(s) (in this case the Standard) to prove their accusations to be accurate.
Well i think they did at the beginning?
I have yet to see a comprehensive, evidenced, point by point rebuttal.
It's all just descended in to mud slinging which, a cynic might suggest, could suit all parties.
Meanwhile Mr or Mrs Londoner has no idea if the Mayor's office is effectively spending it's wedge and Lee Jasper may have had to walk for no greater reason than not being able to keep it in his pants.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Of course.
Unfortunately, all too often central govt practiced gets followed on a "sauce for the goose..." basis, leaving dual carriageway-wide avenues for journos to explore and infer corruption from, even when the actual practice is non-corrupt and entirely down to stupidity.
I'd love to see that happen, I'd also love there to be effective and enforcable sanctions that would stop anyone who considered practicing a bit of opaqueness in their tracks.
Again, I totally agree.
The convention is usually for the party making the claim(s) (in this case the Standard) to prove their accusations to be accurate.
Well, Jasper stood down without a fight. I would see that of being indicative that the Standard's story has legs.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
uIt could equally be seen as indicative that the Standard were going to keep pursuing him no matter what.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Lee Jaspuh, he comes from Manchestuh. 
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
ROTFLMAO!!!!! Get thee to the Evening Standard. BoJo needs footsoldiers in the run up to the election.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Yep, and had descended to printing completely unproven and unnecessary allegations that were clearly looking to undermine/destroy (choose your verb) his private life, as well as that of a married woman that he knows. Pretty odious stuff, even by the Evading Standard really.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
what is it with this Bo Jo moniker
did you all go to Eton with him or something
Nah if I'd gone to Eton I would have started my buggery career much much earlier
The 'bojo' moniker came from another political website via a poster on here.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Yup my view as well.
Maybe we should have a new currency voucher in London it could be called 'The Jasper' and be valued at Nine Shillings and be in note form.
untethered
For industry & decency
If he doesn't like it he should sue for libel. He can obviously afford to.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
I agree with this - the Evening SubStandard is the lying fuckwit rag that's been desperate to hang something on Livingstone since the beginning, even pulling the Jewish holocaust into it despite parent company and Lord Rothermere being deeply involved in racist attitudes to Jewish people during WW2.
Livingstone might be a chancer but he has more integrity than the Sub Standard's editorial team ever will.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Can he afford to? Do you actually know how much it costs to take a defamation case to court? Do you also realise that even if you win, the costs are still high? That is why ordinary folk never take defamation cases to court.
Do Carter Fuck do no win no fee?
If it was all lies, he would sue or simpler still, as i said earlier - produce a damning portfolio refuting the allegations point by point and proving the probity of the decision making process.
it would do considerable damage to the Stannah's credibility and the Mayor's office a lot of favours.
the mud slinging suits everyone though doesn't it.
If it was all lies, he would sue or simpler still, as i said earlier - produce a damning portfolio refuting the allegations point by point and proving the probity of the decision making process.
it would do considerable damage to the Stannah's credibility and the Mayor's office a lot of favours.
the mud slinging suits everyone though doesn't it.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Agree if there was bugger all in it then Jasper should have defended himself. It would have reflected very well on Livingstone if he defended himself and was cleared.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
With any luck he will sue. Although, to be honest, I don't really have much of a problem with a bit of taxpayers money being redistributed to a few minority groups, given that the minority groups that Jasper may be passing it to are far more representative of my community than the ones that most politicians redistribute to.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Eh?
If you're suggesting that one can get a lawyer to take a defamation case on a no win, no fee basis, you're wrong, it doesn't work that way.KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Fair point about distrubing money to minority groups. I just don't think that Jasper is the sort of person who should be administering the distribution of said money.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I can hear the sound of a [political] axe being ground.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Perhaps not, but he winds up the xenophobic right-wing mouth-frothers and for that he's worth his wages IMO.
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