Led Zepplin to play at Glastonbury 2008?

[Firky]

Too much short notice, mate, besides I have to save my pennies for a trip to London shortly. I reckon you'll crack... you'll be gutted if it is a sunnyun

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

I saw 'page and plant' back in '95 at glasto. It would take a lot for me to return to Glasto. I doubt Led Zep would do it. News of drainage and better organisation would. But still the rip-off prices are off-putting.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

you'll be gutted if it is a sunnyun

I honestly prefer it when it rains, it's far more entertaining

 

[danny la rouge]

Dad, you have never been.

I did go to festivals when I was younger, as you know, son. And I might go to more if I could stay in a hotel or B&B and get a day pass, but many - like Glastonbury - don't allow this. I hate the thought of being trapped in there for the duration, paying what is for me a huge amount of money (- if I was to take your Mum it'd be £308 just for the tickets, without food, drink & travel), for poor sound, and mostly bands I don't like.

If you think your Mum would go, you take her. But I'm not lending you the cash.

 

[Firky]

You could always stop in a wigwam, they have double beds and a wee stove to keep you warm. It is a lot of money, I don't deny that, but since I don't really ever go abroad unless it is Europe on a cheap ferry - it is my holiday. The biggest pain in the arse as you know, is getting down there from all the way up here. It was OK when I lived in Portsmouth. An hour away on the train and I was home again but since I have come back to the frozen borders it takes at least ten hours.

 

[newbie]

And I might go to more if I could stay in a hotel or B&B and get a day pass, but many - like Glastonbury - don't allow this.

of course you can, don't be so silly.

why do otherwise rational and reasonable people feel the need to slag off this one festival, despite knowing nothing at all about it? mystifies me.

 

[danny la rouge]

of course you can, don't be so silly.

• Day tickets are not available, unless you are a local resident wanting to come on Sunday.

Glastonbury Festival website

But if it helps, I'd feel the same about any music festival held in fields, costing £150, not just Glastonbury.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

The Pipes and Drums of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

Tight band. Environmentally sound too, no electricity required.

 

[free spirit]

fuck led zep, I ain't going unless the baghdaddies are playing

 

[Ted Striker]

One things for sure - I'd hate to be the band on the other stage if the Zep do play!

 

[editor]

I *really* hope Zep don't play.

 

[newbie]

you can go in and out of the festival as you wish, I know locals who stay on site but get up to go to work. For myself I like camping and can't quite imagine why anyone would prefer to stay b&b or in a hotel, but all the ones for miles around will be full. In fact they're probably booked up already.

[But if it helps, I'd feel the same about any music festival held in fields, costing £150, not just Glastonbury.

ah but you (and all the others) don't, do you? You trumpet your disapproval of this particular festival while ignoring all the others. You emphasise the expense without noticing it's a music and arts festival with a range of talent as big or bigger than anything in Europe (including the likes of the Edinburgh Festival) and while ignoring that it's a very major contributor to a range of charities and political groups, large and small.

You don't pop up on threads about purely commercial festivals to make your rather narrow points, you reserve the trolling for just this one. Which is fair enough, I suppose, because the others don't have anything like the same level of commitment, so it's an easy target. They also don't let about a quarter of their total attendance through the gates for free, because their focus is profitability rather than the best experience they can manage.

anyway this topic is boring and sterile, I only joined it because of my surprise, not at what was said but at who said it.

 

[Ted Striker]

I *really* hope Zep don't play.

I'd have to agree in fairness.

Let's fae though, LZ don't need to do Glasto, and Glasto doesn't really need LZ. I suppose you could say that about any big band though

 

[danny la rouge]

You trumpet your disapproval of this particular festival while ignoring all the others.

I think this is the first time I've slagged Glasto on Urban. I have slagged off T in the Park before (to which I have been, many years ago), so perhaps you're remembering that.

 

[Firky]

T in the Park is shite. They should call it Global Gathering of Neds. If my only experience of festivals was T in the Park I'd never go to another one

 

[danny la rouge]

"Glastonbury of the Neds". So, what's Glastonbury, in a phrase? "T in the Park of the media lovies", perhaps?

 

[Firky]

"Champers, hampers and barbours"

Doesn't quite work

 

[danny la rouge]

"Champers, hampers and barbours"

Doesn't quite work

Jodhpurs?

 

[William of Walworth]

They will be!!

fuck led zep, I ain't going unless the baghdaddies are playing

I'm not going unless the King Blues are back .,..

 

[William of Walworth]

Danny : I have huge respect for you on these forums, and rarely disagree with you about anything really, but on this one, newbie knows the score and you don't

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Danny : I have huge respect for you on these forums, and rarely disagree with you about anything really, but on this one, newbie knows the score and you don't

Danny said he didn't want to go, what's the problem with that?

 

[William of Walworth]

Danny said he didn't want to go, what's the problem with that?

Nothing wrong with that decision. And I take his point about maybe not liking the bands -- not that the headliners are what the event is all about anyway.

The point of disagreement for me lies with his apparant perception of what Glastonbury is like. I think his impression is flawed, incomplete, riddled with cliches and inaccuracies, etc.

Plus newbie posted a lot of sense, based on lots of experience of the whole Glasto malarkey, and I was agreeing with that.

 

[William of Walworth]

Glastonbury has plenty of faults and reasons for legit criticism, I've made many criticisms myself. It's certainly not an event that will suit everyone, I can fully understand why some people want to avoid it.

The criticisms made by those who have never been or have not been for years, tend to be right out there on Planet Inaccuracy though, and as often as not fuelled by cliches and prejudices. Danny seems to have bought into one or two of those himself.

 

[danny la rouge]

Danny : I have huge respect for you on these forums, and rarely disagree with you about anything really, but on this one, newbie knows the score and you don't

I'm sorry if you no longer respect me because I don't want to go to a festival, but there you go; that's my opinion. The music forum especially is all about opinions.

Perhaps I should list some of my other dislikes while I'm at it:

Camping
Corriander
Skimmed milk
Weak tea
Shortcrust pastry
Queues
Unfitted bottom sheets

 

[danny la rouge]

The point of disagreement for me lies with his apparant perception of what Glastonbury is like. I think his impression is flawed, incomplete, riddled with cliches and inaccuracies, etc.

I don't like camping or huge crowds. Or paying over the odds. Or the sound quality at open air gigs. Or indie bands. Or jugglers.

Would you recommed Glastonbury to me?

 

[William of Walworth]

No, because you don't want to go, and that's fine. I know quite a few completely festie minded people who onlyu go to small ones becuase the crowds at bigger ones put em off, that I understand, even though the scale of Glastonbury doesn't bother me.

You DID come out with some inaccurate cliches earlier up though

(I'm no fan of jugglers myself, but I'd stop short of advocating NVP's policy of the death penalty for them ... )

But don't give me that provocative bollocks about not allowing you to have an opinion or about me not respecting you. I do, thoroughly. Except when you're talking bollocks, which because it's so rare, in this instance stood out ...

 

[danny la rouge]

You DID come out with some inaccurate cliches earlier up though

Just out of interest, what was inaccurate? My idea that you couldn't buy day passes was gleaned from the Glasto site.

By the way, I wasn't trying to provoke you. I was merely pointing out that my dislike of festivals isn't about "not knowing the score" or "prejudice". (Prejudice about what? - festivals? I've been to open air festivals, and don't like them. I made a judgement that the largest festival will have all the things I dislike but more so. I have no intention of finding out to what extent that's true; that'd be a miserable experience. Just as I have no intention of finding out whether I'm correct in thinking that recreating Scott's arctic expedition would not be to my taste.)

I'm not trying to start a fight, honestly. I'm actually quite amused. But there does seem to be a bit of touchiness from Glastonbury fans. Why is that? I don't give a toss if some people dislike Bach recitals, for example. That's a matter for them.

Anyway, sorry if I offended your Glasto loyalty. It wasn't personal.

 

[newbie]

the 'day pass' thing may be simple terminological inexactitude. No, you can't buy a ticket just for one day, yes you can come and go from site as you please. Mind you, it's a refreshing change from the more usual list of boring pickypicky by know-nothing outsiders (mud, cost, toilets, etc etc etc)

Is it really a surprise to you that those who go to the event year after year are a bit touchy when dull, and often wrong, generalisations are made by those who know nothing about it except what they've picked up from the media? See I think it's a lot more mystifying (as I said earlier) that the likes of yourself choose to comment on a thread about something that you know doesn't really interest you.

It's something that happens on threads about Glastonbury but not about eg, Womad. I thinks it's a bit weird that to find the posts made by people who are interested and want to discuss detail you have to wade through posts by people who insist on parading that they are not interested and know zilch about it. I've never really understood the motivation for that, myself.

 

[danny la rouge]

No, you can't buy a ticket just for one day, yes you can come and go from site as you please.

So, I could go on the Sunday, say, but I'd still have to pay the full price? No thanks.

(mud, cost, toilets, etc etc etc)

But they're true! They're certainly reasons I don't go. If I was to go with the missus, that'd be £308 just for the tickets. Without transport there (from Stirling), food etc. I went to Italy with my family of four for less in 2006.

There is currently a festival on that I might visit: Celtic Connections, in Glasgow. It is indoors, no overnight camping, and you buy a ticket just for the band you want to see, nothing else. I can eat before I go, and I can be home in my own bed afterwards. No massive crowds. No portaloos. No sea of tents. No outdoor sound. Just the way I like it.

 

[newbie]

So, I could go on the Sunday, say, but I'd still have to pay the full price? No thanks.

well you could, I suppose, but that's rather missing the point of a 5 day festival. Your thing in Glasgow sounds like any other gig to me, where you turn up, pay, consume and leave. Fine in its way, but nothing remotely like the experience we're discussing on Glastonbury threads.