Latest FIFA World rankings revealed

[zoltan]

We dropped six places and out of the top 10 I really, really hate Steve McLaren and the FA

We're only one place above Scotland

its about right

youve failed to qualify for a Euros that should have been a breeze

Scotland have beaten France 2x of late and drawn with croatia - results that Engaldn have been unable to match in the past year or two

if it wasnt for England having played "reasonably " well for much of the past handful of years & racked up some points, then their ranking would have been worse if it had been based soley on the basis of the last qualifying
campaign say

 

[JTG]

Dunno on the globe they are fairly close but seeing as thats wrong i have no real idea about the distances between countries in africa.

Yeah an ozzie world cup would piss me off as well. Silly hours & NO WHERE NEAR ANYONE WHO WILL QUALIFY. Although it would be a good excuse to go over and see some convict family members so it would have a slight bonus.

I reckon where it is globally is very importent. You need to have fans be able to travel to it which basicly means it has to be convienient for at least europe or south america really as we are the only continets that are going to win it untill mexico get a whole lot better. Also the further away it is from real footballing countires the sillier the game start times which must lose a hell of a lot global tv ratings.

dave

Like in Japan & Korea, a notoriously miserable failure of a world cup

 

[stavros]

The FIFA rankings are fundamentally flawed, because comparing Wales and Honduras is essentially futile. The only time they're ever going to meet in a competitive match is if they both qualify for the World Cup. I appreciate that this is by no means impossible for Wales, but highly unlikely that both of them would get there.

Of course, if they meant anything then we wouldn't bother with the World Cup every four years.

 

[The Black Hand]

England should be above these I think - Czech Republic Portugal France Russia Romania Cameroon Turkey - so that puts England about 7th. I would have liked to see England mix it with the big boys in the Euro's but we'll have to wait for the world cup. Scotland should not be 1 place below england, that shows the wankness of their ratings system.

 

[zoltan]

England should be above these I think - Czech Republic Portugal France Russia Romania Cameroon Turkey - so that puts England about 7th. I would have liked to see England mix it with the big boys in the Euro's but we'll have to wait for the world cup. Scotland should not be 1 place below england, that shows the wankness of their ratings system.

"Czech Republic Portugal France Russia Romania Cameroon Turkey "

you reckon?

Im biased, but you would be lucky to get two wins from that selection

theres a lot worse to come for England if their campaign doesnt get off the blovcks quickly - the way the ranking work, England will lose the benfit of the historical weighting and rapidly drop down the rankings

Scotland were about 84th or something at the end of the Vogts period - and that included a tournament playff / win against Holland

 

[Woollyredhat]

The Ivory coast are ahead of us?! ( Ireland)

Not only did they steal our flag, but they are suspossedly better at us in football.

This World Cup can't come sooner...

 

[liampreston]

Cameroon maybe easy, but after Euro2008, can you see England beating Turkey?

 

[JTG]

There's no way England should be above France, Portugal, Russia or Czech Republic. Not sure about Turkey or Romania either and don't know enough about Cameroon lately to comment.

 

[JTG]

The Ivory coast are ahead of us?! ( Ireland)

Not only did they steal our flag, but they are suspossedly better at us in football.

This World Cup can't come sooner...

Of course, Ivory Coast are miles better than RoI

 

[Woollyredhat]

We'll see.

 

[twistedAM]

England should be above these I think - Czech Republic Portugal France Russia Romania Cameroon Turkey - so that puts England about 7th. I would have liked to see England mix it with the big boys in the Euro's but we'll have to wait for the world cup. Scotland should not be 1 place below england, that shows the wankness of their ratings system.

France maybe. But that would mean Scotland should be above England

 

[zoltan]

basically, England have lost their Euro 2004 qualfiers & tournament points - they have dropped off the 4 year period

heres how the points value coeficcient erode over the 4 years

100% of points earned from July 07 to June 08
50% of points earned from July 06 to June07
30% of points earned from July05 to June06
20% of points earned from July04 to June05

I think competitive points count for double the friendly points during the past 4 years

it helps that the Euro08 finalists have now got the benefit of their finals results in the latest FIFA rankings, which will make a big difference

a good WC qualfifier period will help of course

BTW

in August - England will LOSE the points they have for the 3-0 win over Ukraine in August 2004 , whereas Scotland will LOSE the 0-3 loss to HUngary during the same period - Scotland will gain/ England will lose points becasue of this schedule

interesting times ahead

 

[zoltan]

France maybe. But that would mean Scotland should be above England

I wouldnt like to put money on the result of an England-Scotland game at the minute - seriously

 

[kained&able]

Really? 4 months ago i wouldnt have want to. But i have no doubt we would beat scotland.

dave

 

[The Black Hand]

"Czech Republic Portugal France Russia Romania Cameroon Turkey "

you reckon?

Im biased, but you would be lucky to get two wins from that selection

theres a lot worse to come for England if their campaign doesnt get off the blovcks quickly - the way the ranking work, England will lose the benfit of the historical weighting and rapidly drop down the rankings

Scotland were about 84th or something at the end of the Vogts period - and that included a tournament playff / win against Holland

I did say 'should' - that doesn't mean they would beat them. But in a one off hypothetical match where would the venue be? Or would it be a 2 legged hypothetical match, home and away? And would it be a friendly 'competition or in qualifyers, or in a major championship?

SO many variables....

 

[bigbry]

Unlike for example, the next world cup which is really near everybody who is likely to take part

But at least the next one's more or less in the same time area so the games will be played in the evening so the mass of fans in europe can watch at a good 'watching football on TV time'

 

[bigbry]

I did say 'should' - that doesn't mean they would beat them. But in a one off hypothetical match where would the venue be? Or would it be a 2 legged hypothetical match, home and away? And would it be a friendly 'competition or in qualifyers, or in a major championship?

SO many variables....

Millenium Stadium ?

 

[zoltan]

I did say 'should' - that doesn't mean they would beat them. But in a one off hypothetical match where would the venue be? Or would it be a 2 legged hypothetical match, home and away? And would it be a friendly 'competition or in qualifyers, or in a major championship?

SO many variables....

of course,

The variables are all added the the coefficients - they are loaded for take into account whether its a friendly or a competitive game , home or away, the rank of the team played...

England are a second seed team based on These rankings - you could argue the toss all day on specifics, but to suggest that they are worth a top seeding would be utterly delusional IMHO - second seed is about right atm.

 

[The Black Hand]

of course,

The variables are all added the the coefficients - they are loaded for take into account whether its a friendly or a competitive game , home or away, the rank of the team played...

England are a second seed team based on These rankings - you could argue the toss all day on specifics, but to suggest that they are worth a top seeding would be utterly delusional IMHO - second seed is about right atm.

I said should and I also said Scotland are not in the same league. I think I am right - you think you are right. Such is life - we can agree to disagree and i think that is best.

 

[zoltan]

there isnt a right or wrong as you say, just the stats that go to make up the ranking - Im happy with the numbers behind the rankings - Ive looked into how it works out and its difficult to use a methdology that encompasses the entire FIFA kingdom - for relevance, the UEFA ranking section is the only one that really matters to us for our section

http://fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=27275&rank=171

anyway, its pretty much an irrelevance for the forseeable future, the pots and seedings for WC 2010 quals. have been picked based on these rankinsh - it only gets interesting again when WC2010 attendees have been decided and the rankings used for the finals seedings - until Euro 2012 comes along and once again, the rankings come into play for the qualification draw

I for one, was fukin glad we couldnt get England in the WC qualifers group

we got the Dutch



it.never.ends

 

[The Black Hand]

there isnt a right or wrong as you say, just the stats that go to make up the ranking - Im happy with the numbers behind the rankings - Ive looked into how it works out and its difficult to use a methdology that encompasses the entire FIFA kingdom - for relevance, the UEFA ranking section is the only one that really matters to us for our section

http://fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=27275&rank=171

anyway, its pretty much an irrelevance for the forseeable future, the pots and seedings for WC 2010 quals. have been picked based on these rankinsh - it only gets interesting again when WC2010 attendees have been decided and the rankings used for the finals seedings - until Euro 2012 comes along and once again, the rankings come into play for the qualification draw

I for one, was fukin glad we couldnt get England in the WC qualifers group

we got the Dutch



it.never.ends

Cool

 

[aylee]

FIFA World rankings are a pile of toss that bear absolutely no resemblance to reality. Anyone who saw that joke team fielded by the USA against England would be astounded that they've consistently been in the world's top 10 over the last few years.