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Lambeth Labour's plan to demolish Cressingham Gardens & build luxury flats around Brockwell Park

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Brixton Hatter, Aug 4, 2014.

  1. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    The latest element in Lambeth Council's plan to socially cleanse the Brixton area has been revealed: demolish the Cressingham Gardens estate and build a huge development of luxury flats for the rich around Brockwell Park:

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    Clearly Lambeth Labour have a 20 year strategic plan to get rid of the poor and ensure only the rich remain. They are about 7 years into the plan…they are doing pretty well with it so far.
     
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  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Have you got a link for this? Tricky Skills will be all over this!
     
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  3. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

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  4. el-ahrairah

    el-ahrairah forward communism, forward gerbils!

    fucking lambeth really are scum.
     
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  5. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    I find Cressingham Gardens an immensely depressing estate. Many (but not all) of the people who live there love it to bits, but I can't see the appeal - besides being right on the edge of the park
     
  6. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    I think the last mock up I saw of what was proposed was far shorter than that image. Mission creep or what?! Most of the trees have disappeared too; does that suggest this is a mock up by the residents not the developer?
     
  7. nagapie

    nagapie Well-Known Member

    Do you work for Lambeth, SpamMisery? You really do come across as that sort of arsehole in all of your posts.

    Just in case you don't know, places where you live are made more by the people/community who live there than the actual buildings. But Cressingham Gardens is not at all depressing and actually really well designed. I'm sure Greebo can post that amazing short film about the estate and the architect who designed it; although I have the feeling that really you're not interested.
     
  8. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Compare and contrast with the style-but-no-substance built Brockwell Gate (not even available to council tenants), the large, carcentric, and difficult to navigate Tulse Hill Estate, the Deronda Estate, or St Martins Estate. Then pick one. :p

    There's the light, the high ceilings (at least at one end), the way that you can keep an eye out for deliveries while in the kitchen, the way that the flats are clustered. But if you don't get it, you don't get it. Frankly, I wouldn't want your sort for a neighbour anyway, sweetie. Enjoy Brockwell Gate or wherever else. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    I don't remember where the clip is, as I don't have fast enough broadband to view it - only saw it at the tenants' & resident's meeting.

    OTOH Manter was told by the police that this estate has a very low crime rate, compared to the bigger and more intensively built estates along the same main road.
     
  10. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    That's the most intensively built option - there are others where the profile and layout of the estate will be kept a lot closer to what it is now. Seeing as the scanner's in the bedroom near his computer, I'll see if I can get ViolentPanda to scan and post the the colour coded layouts of the other options as well as that one.

    Nothing is set in stone yet, and the option shown above will only happen over my dead body. :mad:
     
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  11. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    Have you actually ever been there?

    I've not lived there but I lived just across the road for many years and walked/cycled through it daily - also various friends lived there (as well as two of the most illustrious urbanites ;) ) - it's a good, safe, quiet place to live. "Good architecture, done with modest means and lots of skill."

    Parts of it have been criminally neglected by the council in the past 10+ years though...
     
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  12. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    I think this is the film referred to above - about 20 mins, well worth a watch.

     
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  13. SarfLondoner

    SarfLondoner KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.

     
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  14. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    I visit the estate frequently and have watched the many videos on YouTube. I do this because I follow the proposed redevelopment quite closely because I have some close friends who live on the estate. I fully understand why some of the residents like it so much, I simply don't see it the same way.
     
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  15. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    What's a good estate? What is a nice place to live?
     
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  16. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    FWIW the bits near Tesco, which were blocked up with breeze blocks for several years, will almost certainly be demolished and then new blocks will be put in that area.

    SpamMisery where do you live then? I don't want your address, but let's hear what you misguidedly think is so great to live in. Style of building? Age of building? State of repair? Local demographic?
     
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  17. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    The simple truth is: Lambeth's Labour council and their developer mates want as many rich people as possible to move in so they can flog all our public assets and trouser lots of cash.

    Brockwell Park could be partially surrounded by tower blocks. I predicted this many years ago when they stole a corner of the park to add an extra traffic lane at Herne Hill. Slippery slope….
     
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  18. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    Greebo was there any info from the council on projected numbers of new/refurbished/social housing homes? Is there anything online yet?
     
  19. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    whether the design of the estate is good or whether people like living there or not isn't the issue here. Lambeth are selling off publicly owed homes / buildings and allowing them to be replaced with high cost private housing.

    When Lambeth is all luxury flats - where will the cleaners/ nurses/ carers/ firemen and everyone everyone else live?
     
  20. boohoo

    boohoo Part-time Cat

    Everyone will be in the suburbs awaiting the call from the inner city rich residents.
     
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  21. boohoo

    boohoo Part-time Cat

    SpamMisery Am also very intrigued to what sort of space you live in and why it is so great.
     
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  22. nagapie

    nagapie Well-Known Member

    Is there any chance that the combined might of the residents and the Friends of Brockwell Park can fight them off?
     
  23. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    Sorry guys, didn't realise I had to share your architectural views. I have now amended mine and will look to move to Cressingham Gardens sharpish
     
  24. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Where do you live? Do me the courtesy of answering my question if it's such a lovely place.
     
  25. buscador

    buscador culturally dominant

    Are you actually suggesting that it is perfectly acceptable, desirable even, to tear down Cressingham Gardens, disperse the community and replace it with private housing because you don't like the architecture?
     
  26. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    There's information in the leaflet - no idea if it's online - low data allowance - y'know?

    Have just about got VP started scanning the bloody leaflet of options, not easy. For my next trick, I'll persuade the Thames to make a reverse waterfall up one side of the Southbank Centre - no engineering required. ;)
     
  27. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Brixton Hatter according to the bloke who had a hand in regenerating an estate in Enfield, all the places done up, let alone built on this estate, will be "affordable - I mean social rent - I mean existing council tenants already on the estate have nothing to worry about". He seemed to have me down as a stroppy ungrateful cow who wouldn't just take what he said as gospel.

    BUT he also said that all the flats built would be put on water meters AND would probably go up by at least one council tax band - only an extra £20 (per week/month/year? Didn't say).
     
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  28. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    I didn't say or suggest anything remotely like that, but hey... details, whatever.

    Wait, what I meant to say was, "why would someone who wants to move there hold such an abhorrent view?!!"
     
  29. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    SpamMisery
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
    Where do you live?
     
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  30. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Dubious but any help is welcome. As it is, the Telly Tubby mounds are safe as they're part of the Brockwell Park Conservation Area. Small victories. Crosby Walk and that side are probably going to be sacrificed.
     
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