Lambeth home to 25% of London's Gangs
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Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
apparently one of the biggest and most dangerous gangs in Lambeth is called "urban" , which has over 39,000 members , not just in Lambeth but worldwide. they have a fearsome reputation and if you cross them, the mysterious head honcho, known as the "editor", will hunt you down and chuck you down the nearest stairwell 
Lol...I'd never be able to remember all that!
According to National Statistics there are about 28,000 10-19 year olds in Lambeth. According to Lambeth 2,500 of these (ie 1 in every 11) are in one single gang in Brixton.
Even if you define Brixton fairly widely - covering, say, a quarter of Lambeth then this would mean about 1/3 10-19 years olds in Brixton are in a single gang. Which to me looks like a large piles of steaming bollocks.
Even if you define Brixton fairly widely - covering, say, a quarter of Lambeth then this would mean about 1/3 10-19 years olds in Brixton are in a single gang. Which to me looks like a large piles of steaming bollocks.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
My theory stemming from this is that Steve Reed couldn't get the cuts to Social Services through cos of public protest. He justified these proposed cuts by saying that Lambeth people want more £ spent on the police and youth services as their main concern is crime.
the reason they have to make cuts is because he says the previous administration spent all Lambeth's reserves before they checked out.
They discovered the council is broke after the newly elected councillors voted themselves a 100% payrise. (So he gets £32K a year for being Council Leader - he's also a company director).
Now all boys in Lambeth are in a gang.
Yeah - a gang that says 'Fuck off you parasites'.
Even so it would be a huge proportion of people in any reasonably chosen age group.
Under 10s tend not to be in gangs much (well not worrying ones).
And over 20s tend to have started to settle down into jobs, relationships, kids that means that they tend to not be involved in gangs as much.
I confess to not having read the report but I'd be astonished if their methodology was anything more sophisticated than a random guess.
Haven't read the thread - not got time - so I don't know if anyone's already posted this, but here's the report in full:
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/moderngov/ieListDocuments.asp?CId=116&MId=6121
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/moderngov/ieListDocuments.asp?CId=116&MId=6121
Arse, can't find it.
Anyway, I've got it on my desktop so if anyone wants to read it then I'm happy to e-mail it to them. My email is [email protected]
Some of the language they use is quite amusing...
Anyway, I've got it on my desktop so if anyone wants to read it then I'm happy to e-mail it to them. My email is [email protected]
Some of the language they use is quite amusing...
Right I've now had a chance to have a quick look at this report.
I think the key thing on the 2,500 figure is that it refers to the number of people on the PDC website (presumably on MySpace - though I can't find it myself). When people were interviewed for the Lambeth gangs report they said that they in fact thought that there were only 100 or so active members - obviously still a worrying number but only 4% of the reported figures.
The report goes on to say:
It's not clear who chose to publicise the erroneous 2,500 figure - it's not in the council press release.
However my guess is either Steve Reed or an over enthusiastic council press officer since the figure appears in all of the media coverage that was in advance of the report being published.
Either that or a journalist was given an advance copy and chose to take the 2,500 out of context...
I think the key thing on the 2,500 figure is that it refers to the number of people on the PDC website (presumably on MySpace - though I can't find it myself). When people were interviewed for the Lambeth gangs report they said that they in fact thought that there were only 100 or so active members - obviously still a worrying number but only 4% of the reported figures.
The report goes on to say:
It's not clear who chose to publicise the erroneous 2,500 figure - it's not in the council press release.
However my guess is either Steve Reed or an over enthusiastic council press officer since the figure appears in all of the media coverage that was in advance of the report being published.
Either that or a journalist was given an advance copy and chose to take the 2,500 out of context...
Presentation of Guns and Gangs Report
People following this issue may be interested in a presentation by its author, Professor John Pitts, at next Tuesday's - 1 April - CPCG meeting, at Christchurch, Gyspy Hill at 6:30 pm. The Safer Lambeth Partnership will also be setting out their Action Plan in response to the Commissions findings.
Details here.
People following this issue may be interested in a presentation by its author, Professor John Pitts, at next Tuesday's - 1 April - CPCG meeting, at Christchurch, Gyspy Hill at 6:30 pm. The Safer Lambeth Partnership will also be setting out their Action Plan in response to the Commissions findings.
Details here.
Just been flicking through the latest police report to the CPCG.
Interestingly it looks like robberies are down 17% on a year ago - which is good news. And in fact, burglaries aside, virtually all the other crimes are down too.
And the grimmer news is that murders have doubled to 19 in the year to date.
http://www.downloads.lambethcpcg.org.uk/Police%20Report%200801.pdf
Interestingly it looks like robberies are down 17% on a year ago - which is good news. And in fact, burglaries aside, virtually all the other crimes are down too.
And the grimmer news is that murders have doubled to 19 in the year to date.
http://www.downloads.lambethcpcg.org.uk/Police%20Report%200801.pdf
Nixon
peanut butter n.w.o.
innit! it still does depending on where you go..im sure if you bop through vauxhall with a red bandana in your left pocket you'll probably get more than just gangs checking you out..
on another note tulse hill makes me shudder..report looks interesting but will have a proper read once i've slept.
london manz
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LAMBETH AINT HOME TO 25% OF GANGS, THE REPORT COUNTED WANDSWORTH AND CROYDON GANGS AS BEING PART OF LAMBETH, DIDNT FULLY APPRECIATE THE NATURE OF DIFFERENT INDEPENDENT CLIQUES AND INSTEAD PLACED ALMOST ALL BRIXTON GANGS UNDER PDC
www.piczo.com/gangsinlondon
1TRU STAT THO, LAMBETH IS HOME TO 25% OF LONDON'S MURDERS
www.piczo.com/gangsinlondon
1TRU STAT THO, LAMBETH IS HOME TO 25% OF LONDON'S MURDERS
london manz
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If the group engages in Robbery, Street Dealing of Drugs and uses expressive acts of violence with weapons then it is considered a gang
howver:
not all gang members are criminals, therefore the group itself should not be thought of as a ‘criminal organisation’. There are rogue elements within the group that independently engage in consistent criminal activity but those actions do not represent all members of the group
P.D.C
peel dem cru
are a big bad posse...
harder to crack than the ira..
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23454573-details/My+escape+from+gangland/article.do
peel dem cru
are a big bad posse...
harder to crack than the ira..
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23454573-details/My+escape+from+gangland/article.do
Hilarious, isn't it?
Even I can remember a couple of "estate wars" back in the mid 70s when I was a grubby teenage herbert with nothing to do and a bad attitude.
Obviously.
It's the "jungle rhythms" inciting them to beastial behaviour, I expect (soz, I';ve just been reading an utter waste of paper called "The Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom which promotes just such a theory, and it was only written 20 years ago, fercrissakes!).
Roger Scruton still peddles this kind of nonsense in the UK.
