lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
I think the council will need an addition to its vehicle fleet for identifying all that local musical talent:
Lambeth Country show - now run by the Council
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ska invita
back on the other side
At least Alabama 3 have got themselves another gig!
The 'whole equation', though, for the voluntary sector stalls does NOT include making a packet, or any money at all!
The voluntary sector stalls are primarily to let people know what is available in their neighbourhood and demonstrate the work and activities on offer and achieved. Some might be able to sell products or take subscriptions - but they will be, by definition, 'not for profit'.
The voluntary sector are asked to book a stall a couple of months in advance, and then pay a lot of money - so there wouldn't be vacant stalls - they just provide enough for those booked.
I work for a voluntary sector organisation and we had a shared stall one year, and couldn't afford it the next.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Sure, I don't think there's any question the voluntary sector should be subject to more favourable tariffs at community events such as this.
Ubique, who used to run the LCS's contract was up. They did charge a lot for stalls. The Council events team are not going to change much content, an extra section near the Flower Tent for disabled people i think.
Personally i'm sick of men with guns (aka the army) at the LCS and a complete lack of little tea and cake stalls run by local people. Overall it's a top two days.
Personally i'm sick of men with guns (aka the army) at the LCS and a complete lack of little tea and cake stalls run by local people. Overall it's a top two days.
I have just been informed that Lambeth Country Show has now been taken "in House" and will be run by council officers"
polotics polotics, maybe we will see some more country music, Instead of the reggae weekend it has become... I'd like to see a bit more morris dancing and a little less £10 bag...
Elvis Parsley
Well-Known Member
i always think of you as a Margaret Rutherford type, circa Blythe Spirit rather than Miss Marple, dashing around on yer bicycle banishing troublesome types and guerrilla gardening
Eh?
What the hell has morris dancing got to with 'country music'? Surely the fact that there are a a few reggae artists on the main stage doesn't mean that it's a reggae weekend either. Surely the "Village Green' area gives you most of what you'd like?
The £10 bag comment seems a little unnecessary tbh.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I've always found the balance to be pretty good, although sometimes a little bit more variety on the main stage would be a good thing.
Never seen all that much dealing either tbh.
Never seen all that much dealing either tbh.
To be fair, they do tend to bring the World Music types out as well. It's just that they tend not to go down half as well. Equally some have been less than memorable if I'm honest.
I'm guessing that reggae's seen as a largely uncontroversial, sunny music choice. Trying to select more urban/hip hop type acts that'd arguably better reflect the neighbourhood would almost certainly be fraught with more difficulty.
I'm guessing that reggae's seen as a largely uncontroversial, sunny music choice. Trying to select more urban/hip hop type acts that'd arguably better reflect the neighbourhood would almost certainly be fraught with more difficulty.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
True but sometimes a bit of variation could be found within the reggae IMO. Or even changing the timetable a bit so that they don't get very similar type acts on after each other.
It's a minor complaint though - I don't mind the reggae, I just find sometimes it does get a bit samey after a while.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
pootle
little moran
You know, I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but stuff the drugs and music, I'm lovin' the sound of this!
I wonder if there's any Lambeth branches of the W.I - I'm thinking "Jam and Jerusalem" South London stylie!
M'off to investigate!
I wonder if there's any Lambeth branches of the W.I - I'm thinking "Jam and Jerusalem" South London stylie!
M'off to investigate!steve indigenou
New Member
Having worked with the old management team and sat on the odd working group of the Brixton Area forum which discussed festivals in Lambeth, I would say that it is possibly a good thing that Lambeth are taking it in house, though it very much depends on who runs it within Lambeth. Those who say they are well qualified to cock it up are right of course.
More representation of local people and culture is surely a good thing - and I would go along with the comments about the army being out of place and unwanted at a festival in Brixton. I persoanally have grave doubts about the whole 'country show' theme - what has that got to do with Brixton / Lambeth ? Something more multi-cultural, celebrating and showcasing the diverse richness of Lambeth's culture would be more fun, representative and better for community cohesion. Something a bit more contemporary than tea and cake stalls but more representative of local people than the army and traction engines.
If you compare what Southwark manage to what Lambeth do, Lambeth is a disgrace. But then Southwark have a large events team with a decent events officer backed up by a decent budget.
Incidenally, tt hasn't always been reggae on the main stage - they had hip-hop one year with Tim Westwood who got shot on the way home. The next year they changed it to reggae as the vibes were bound to be more peaceful, which makes sense.
More representation of local people and culture is surely a good thing - and I would go along with the comments about the army being out of place and unwanted at a festival in Brixton. I persoanally have grave doubts about the whole 'country show' theme - what has that got to do with Brixton / Lambeth ? Something more multi-cultural, celebrating and showcasing the diverse richness of Lambeth's culture would be more fun, representative and better for community cohesion. Something a bit more contemporary than tea and cake stalls but more representative of local people than the army and traction engines.
If you compare what Southwark manage to what Lambeth do, Lambeth is a disgrace. But then Southwark have a large events team with a decent events officer backed up by a decent budget.
Incidenally, tt hasn't always been reggae on the main stage - they had hip-hop one year with Tim Westwood who got shot on the way home. The next year they changed it to reggae as the vibes were bound to be more peaceful, which makes sense.
editor
hiraethified
It has everything to do with Lambeth in as such as it's packed out every year and a great success.
It's a great day out. Kids get to see farm animals close up, learn about country stuff, see owls, get excited by steam engines, watch bonkers medieval battles and see young boys and girls blasting around on motorbikes. And it may be inner-city Lambeth but guess what? People still grow vegetables, bake cakes and grow flowers.
Worst. idea. ever. Exactly what would you change? And exactly what would 'represent' Brixton?
It's one of the best weekend events in London by miles, it's crazy mix of old, new and rural is loved by Lambeth residents young and old, so why fuck about with it just to make it contemporary?
(I'm all for more local stuff/stalls/cafes, mind, although it's hardly over run with big brand corporates, is it?)
steve indigenou
New Member
Just because it's popular doesn't make it good. Think McDonalds, Girls Aloud or Coca Cola.
Don't think that I'm saying all of it is bad - the animals, the cakes, the vegetables are good.
So what to replace the traction engines (the relevance of which I cannot fathom) or the army with ?
Well, I would have loads more local cultural stuff - performances and set-ups from all the local cultural groups in Lambeth (and there are loads), all with their own musical, dance, artistic and culinary traditions. And before you say it'll be boring, remember that Carnival del Pueblo in Southwark, which brings together the Latin communities in South London and beyond, gets 250,000 people.
This begs the question as to what your prgramming criteria are. Do you just want to pull a crowd and entertain or do you want to achieve any social goals as well. The Lambeth Country Show was meant to give people a taste of the country, or of a country show to be more precise. If you wanted to run an event that raised awareness of the country side and of nature, you wouldn't programme traction engines, the army and motorbikes. Working demonstrations by combine harvesters, tractors etc would be interesting and fun too, and people would learn a bit more about how their food is made. Maybe a big farmers market as well, with all the free-range producers bringing live examples for the kiddies to see. Representatives from the soil association and from the NUT telling people about how the super-markets screw them silly would be more representative of the real countryside.
Or crafts demonstrations the kind of which they have at Glasto or Big Green.
I think the whole concept is flawed - out of date, mostly irrelevant to contemporary Lambeth and the money could be spent doing something much better and representative but at the same time still preserve the 'local' element. Keep the best bits, bin the rest.
One of the best festivals I have been to in Lambeth was the Save Our World festival run in 1997 I think. Strong environmental ethos, lots of local people involved...and run on a fraction of the budget that LCS runs on.
Or outside of London, I've heard very good things about the Ashton Court Community Festival in Bristol.
Don't think that I'm saying all of it is bad - the animals, the cakes, the vegetables are good.
So what to replace the traction engines (the relevance of which I cannot fathom) or the army with ?
Well, I would have loads more local cultural stuff - performances and set-ups from all the local cultural groups in Lambeth (and there are loads), all with their own musical, dance, artistic and culinary traditions. And before you say it'll be boring, remember that Carnival del Pueblo in Southwark, which brings together the Latin communities in South London and beyond, gets 250,000 people.
This begs the question as to what your prgramming criteria are. Do you just want to pull a crowd and entertain or do you want to achieve any social goals as well. The Lambeth Country Show was meant to give people a taste of the country, or of a country show to be more precise. If you wanted to run an event that raised awareness of the country side and of nature, you wouldn't programme traction engines, the army and motorbikes. Working demonstrations by combine harvesters, tractors etc would be interesting and fun too, and people would learn a bit more about how their food is made. Maybe a big farmers market as well, with all the free-range producers bringing live examples for the kiddies to see. Representatives from the soil association and from the NUT telling people about how the super-markets screw them silly would be more representative of the real countryside.
Or crafts demonstrations the kind of which they have at Glasto or Big Green.
I think the whole concept is flawed - out of date, mostly irrelevant to contemporary Lambeth and the money could be spent doing something much better and representative but at the same time still preserve the 'local' element. Keep the best bits, bin the rest.
One of the best festivals I have been to in Lambeth was the Save Our World festival run in 1997 I think. Strong environmental ethos, lots of local people involved...and run on a fraction of the budget that LCS runs on.
Or outside of London, I've heard very good things about the Ashton Court Community Festival in Bristol.
steve indigenou
New Member
Pie1,
do you have a point to make - or just abuse ?
If you knew anything you would know that quite a lot of people working in the creative sector in Lambeth have been complaining about LCS for years. I have sat in meetings where leading members of the community have harrangued the Council for how unrepresentative LCS is. Are they idiots too ?
Incidentally, your command of English is impressive. 'Your an idiot' should be 'You're an idiot'.
So maybe unless you have something constructive to say, maybe you should keep quiet.
do you have a point to make - or just abuse ?
If you knew anything you would know that quite a lot of people working in the creative sector in Lambeth have been complaining about LCS for years. I have sat in meetings where leading members of the community have harrangued the Council for how unrepresentative LCS is. Are they idiots too ?
Incidentally, your command of English is impressive. 'Your an idiot' should be 'You're an idiot'.
So maybe unless you have something constructive to say, maybe you should keep quiet.
editor
hiraethified
What a ridiculous, inappropriate and truly irrelevant comparison.
It's a couple of days when the people of Brixton all get together to enjoy a unique event.
t's fun. It's family friendly. No-one's shoving anything in your face. People are chilled and it feels welcoming to all. The vibe there is fantastic and most Brixtonites I know are thoroughly proud of the country show.
There's always small improvements that can be made, but the last thing it needs is someone like you trying to 'modernise' it by forcing the show to fit your oh-so-worthy world view or fiddling about with things to somehow reflect "contemporary Lambeth" whatever the fuck that is. It would be shit. It doesn't need to reflect anything.
steve indigenou
New Member
Editor,
you always know how to drag a discussion into the gutter, turning it into an polarised argument rather than an amiable discusison.
If you can't understand how saying that people like the Country Show and that justifies keeping it as it is is similar to saying people like McDonalds or Girls Aloud and so shouldn't be encouraged to broaden their horizons, then that's a shame, but never mind.
If you have no idea what contemporary Lambeth is, then that's quite sad too - as you live there. Certainly there are loads of different cultural communities, none of whom get representation at LCS. Maybe you don't mind that, but maybe they would appreciate some greater degree of support than a few traction engines, motorbikes and the army.
You may know lots of Brixtonites (or should that be Urbanites) who like LCS - I know loads of other Brixtonites, many of them from diverse communities, who think otherwise. Are your views the only valid ones ?
But what interests me is that you can get so abusive as to dismiss other people's ideas as 'shit' - not very tolerant or open minded is it ? But that's how you are, and that's not going to change is it. Leopards and spots.
You might not like changes, and that would be your prerogative. But others might prefer to see something new and different rather than the same old thing every year. Maybe tolerating a bit of change rather than just keeping things as they are would be more progressive.
What is certainly true, is that many sections of Brixton and Lambeth society do not think much of LCS - I have sat in the meetings where Black community leaders have slagged it off vehemently. Are they talking shit too ?
So, try not to be so hostile and argumentative and consider that maybe a few new ideas and influences in LCS wouldn't go amiss.
you always know how to drag a discussion into the gutter, turning it into an polarised argument rather than an amiable discusison.
If you can't understand how saying that people like the Country Show and that justifies keeping it as it is is similar to saying people like McDonalds or Girls Aloud and so shouldn't be encouraged to broaden their horizons, then that's a shame, but never mind.
If you have no idea what contemporary Lambeth is, then that's quite sad too - as you live there. Certainly there are loads of different cultural communities, none of whom get representation at LCS. Maybe you don't mind that, but maybe they would appreciate some greater degree of support than a few traction engines, motorbikes and the army.
You may know lots of Brixtonites (or should that be Urbanites) who like LCS - I know loads of other Brixtonites, many of them from diverse communities, who think otherwise. Are your views the only valid ones ?
But what interests me is that you can get so abusive as to dismiss other people's ideas as 'shit' - not very tolerant or open minded is it ? But that's how you are, and that's not going to change is it. Leopards and spots.
You might not like changes, and that would be your prerogative. But others might prefer to see something new and different rather than the same old thing every year. Maybe tolerating a bit of change rather than just keeping things as they are would be more progressive.
What is certainly true, is that many sections of Brixton and Lambeth society do not think much of LCS - I have sat in the meetings where Black community leaders have slagged it off vehemently. Are they talking shit too ?
So, try not to be so hostile and argumentative and consider that maybe a few new ideas and influences in LCS wouldn't go amiss.
editor
hiraethified
Where have I 'dragged it into the gutter'?
You made a ridiculous argument and I pulled it apart. - and you're the person trying to trash something I look forward to every year.
And that's patronising drivel. Still, I gotta love the way you smugly think you know best.
What black community leaders? And why were they "slagging it off vehemently"?
There sure seemed no shortage of black people at the last country show.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
(a) It's a community event - even the retired and aged
(b) Part of the deal - only part - is to 'bring the country to London' - kids don't see a lot of sheep herding and stuff around Loughborough Junction and it's great for them to experience something beyond their normal lives
(c) Every Tom, Dick and Harry in Lewisham is focused on 'mulitcultural experiences' so is this - check out the music stages - but not all of it and it's refreshing.
Gixxer1000
cant wheelie a shaftie :(
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
The NUT
If you mean the NFU, they are there most years - they had a big launch for the red tractor brand for domestic food. And I'm pretty sure that the Soil Association have been sighted in the past.And how do you suggest that we have a working demonstration of a combine harvester - put one of the fields of Brockwell Park to wheat
[I wouldn't recommend replicating the alternative approach. About twelve years ago, the French equivalent of the NFU grew the equivalent of an entire cornfield on blotting paper at enormous expense and massive carbon footprint. They then transported it to Paris on dozens of low loaders and laid it the entire length of the Champs Elysee just so that it could be mown by synchronised combined harvesters viewed by a bemused mix of Parisians and tourist including yours truly.]
editor
hiraethified
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Moving back to the original thread ...
It seems that the Country Show isn't being run in-house by Lambeth after all.
The requests for stalls are apparently being managed by "Stage It Events Management Limited"
They also run a number of charging events including "A Country Affair on Clapham Common" over the late May Bank Holiday. Are they planning to import all the same things that they have at the Clapham Common, Hampton Court and Morden Hall Park events
It seems that the Country Show isn't being run in-house by Lambeth after all.
The requests for stalls are apparently being managed by "Stage It Events Management Limited"
They also run a number of charging events including "A Country Affair on Clapham Common" over the late May Bank Holiday. Are they planning to import all the same things that they have at the Clapham Common, Hampton Court and Morden Hall Park events
ricbake
working out how
Please
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...es/EventsInParks/Lambethcountryshow2008PC.htm
With the attendance of the event always high even in bad weather the Lambeth Country Show provides the perfect opportunity for anyone wishing to sell, promote or perform. So don't miss the opportunity to get involved!
If you are a concession stall holder then please download our Expression of Interest Form for concessions
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Environment/ParksGreenSpaces/EventsInParks/Concessionsform.htm
If you are a performer then please download our Expression of Interest Form for performers
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Environment/ParksGreenSpaces/EventsInParks/Performersform.htm
Once you have filled out the form please email to [email protected] should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact the Lambeth Events Service on 020 7926 7085.
Lambeth Show for Lambeth People - you could help make it good
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...es/EventsInParks/Lambethcountryshow2008PC.htm
With the attendance of the event always high even in bad weather the Lambeth Country Show provides the perfect opportunity for anyone wishing to sell, promote or perform. So don't miss the opportunity to get involved!
If you are a concession stall holder then please download our Expression of Interest Form for concessions
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Environment/ParksGreenSpaces/EventsInParks/Concessionsform.htm
If you are a performer then please download our Expression of Interest Form for performers
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Environment/ParksGreenSpaces/EventsInParks/Performersform.htm
Once you have filled out the form please email to [email protected] should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact the Lambeth Events Service on 020 7926 7085.
Lambeth Show for Lambeth People - you could help make it good
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
ricbake said:
I have in front of me a copy of the booking form:
This tells me that a voluntary sector stall now costs £72 for the weekend
It is definitely to be returned to: STAGE IT LTD, STAGE IT HOUSE 39 WOLSEY ROAD EAST MOLESEY SURREY KT8 9EN
I also found the following when Googling for any further details.
Four Seasons Craft Fayres
