Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Jan 15, 2018.
Here's how long the fence will be up:
Last year they fenced off black pride in the Vauxhall pleasure gardens for the first time. There were brief bag checks at the entrances, but no queues, and nobody seemed to mind. It was still a great day, so it would be an awful shame if the friends of brockwell Park succeeded in scuppering the country show for the 10’s of thousands of people myself included, that enjoy the event every year. There are few events of this size that are free to attend, and in this instance the council should be applauded for keeping it going and free in these times of enforced austerity.
Thanks for the reassurance I wasn't going off on one I'm grateful for the effort you and others have put into this.
I doubt I'll be going. I usually go each day. One of the days is usually with a friend with mobility issues. I'm sure that he wouldn't want to have to queue. He'd find it exhausting and stressful. Though I will ask him what he thinks about it.
Can anyone remember what they did last year? I know there was no wall but I have a vague recollection of having to cross the park one day it was on and there being queues and bag searches at Brockwell Gate.
Don't recall a queue but I think there were bag searches.
They started off trying to search people and stop alcohol being taken in, but they soon gave up...
Yeah I went in reasonably early on Saturday last year and they had a cursory look through my bag, but mates who came later didn't get checked at all.
I think they are gonna get trouble on the gate, and it's not gonna be pretty....
This is exactly why there needs to be a proper risk assessment and crowd management plan. It is, or should be, for everyone, not just a tightly targetted audience. Unlike at FD there will be children and and a greater likelihood of people with disabilities and the elderly. And teenagers. There has to be proper provision.
Here's how big the fence is going to be:
They're discouraging people from bringing a bag for ‘speed of entry’, but food and drink in sealed containers WILL be allowed.
Am I right to say from that map that people not wanting to visit the event will not be able to walk through the park from the Tulse Hill end to the HH end (unless they take a massive detour towards the Brixton end of the park and then take a sharp right)?
As an aside, to anyone not very familiar to the area, that map gives the impression that Tulse Hill station is about 30 seconds walk from the park. A bit deceiving, that map...
It has the Miniature railway listed too, but that won't be running.
That fence is a waste of money, it's just gonna create problems.
Also wonder why have they changed the orientation of the main arena ?
The Village Green has been moved from the centre to the extreme north west of the site (presumably by the Cressingham Gardens entrance)?
The old set up meant the main arena was like a natural amphitheatre
From that map it looks like it will be mostly on the flat now...
It's not big enough. Main stage is in wrong place. Reduced access points (all herne hill side - which will increase footfall through one entrance)
This is gonna get messy
Green entrance and exit points (accessible only) - that would be the entrance I'd wanna use...
Similarly.. the entire thing seems to be set up assuming that everyone will be arriving from Brixton/HH direction, which is not the case.
I am still going with the best intentions...
...to enjoy myself, for it to be lovely and to dance and have fun....
Bloody hell, more than half the park will be fenced off! And for what? I mean there's already a fence around the whole park, could they not just check at entrances like last time?
I would normally enter and exit from the tulse hill end. Having to walk all the way round to the herne hill end which will be the busiest is going to be a ball ache. And puts me off going. But then I wonder whether that's what Lambeth want?
It would make much more sense and cost a lot less money. I get confiscating glass and having a security presence by park entrances to look out for potential troublemakers or people in a bit of a pickle, but not this shitshow they are proposing. Are they really going to search peoples bag for booze and other 'contraband', who are just going to watch some owls fly around?
Too late to postpone.
who fucking proof read that flyer - sweet lordy - read the 3rd bullet point........
Haha, to be fair I had to re-read it three times before I spotted the missing word. Brain autocorrect in full effect.
they're tweeting the T&Cs again - Lambeth Country Show but not answering people's questions via FB.
Are the FAQs updated: Lambeth Country Show there's some answers around the new security fencing etc. but that seems to state:
"The police have advised that a ‘serious risk to public safety’ was identified following the Lambeth Country Show in 2015 and 2016. This feedback being incorporated into planning 2017’s Lambeth Country Show, but the event still experienced disorder."
But no evidence other than that one random councillor?
He refused to answer my questions on Twitter and the FoI request has gone unanswered.
Update about the Great Wall of Brockwell
Lambeth Council refuses to publish documents explaining why the Great Wall of Brockwell is needed for the 2018 Country Show
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