Lambeth Council Watch - news and updates about the 'co-operative' council

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Yet again an example of Lambeth's Labour group thinking they're being clever, but instead showing what a bunch of total and utter weasel's rimjobs they are.
  2. northeast

    northeast Well-Known Member

  3. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Actually compared to the world of business bonuses councillors special responsibility allowances have been fairly static.

    In the hung council of 1994-98 each of the three group leaders (Labour, Lib Dem, Tory) got just over £10,000 pa on top of their basic allowance. Added to this they also got paid £20 per meeting attended - which I don't think applies any more.

    I don't feel able to comment on the Green party group leader's allowances right now, before he had drawn them. "By their fruits ye shall know them!".

    As for the Stalinist New Labour group - snouts in the trough come to my mind.
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  4. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Nicely done, Lambeth:

  5. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    And as soon as Lambeth Labour is back in power they quickly get back to shafting Fenwick Residents.

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  6. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Sloppy spelling on the Lambeth Life website. Actually I only noticed because I follow Lib Peck (in order to see what I'm supposed to be thinking).

    Here is a paragraph from article Diverse, passionate, reforming: new faces on the council that Cllr Peck re-tweeted:

    "His young ward colleague Mahamed Hashi from Somali, who sits on a dozen policing and crime committees and is co-founder of Brixton Soup Kitchen, agrees. ‘If you’re a community that votes, people take you a lot more se- riously’, he says. While May’s election may have tipped the balance of power only very slightly, it has brought some passionate new blood and a different dynamic to the Town Hall."

    I'm sure Mahamed Hashi is a nice guy and all that - though evidently not as charismatic as the new Green Somali Lord Mayor Of Sheffield

    My dispute is with Lambeth Life (or maybe with Microsoft spellcheck) over their proof reading. A person cannot come from Somali as far as I am aware. They might come from Somalia, or maybe from Somaliland, depending on their political situation in the Horn of Africa.

    A person of Somali heritage is surely a Somali. Do they need a new editor at Lambeth Life? I've got two spare years before my new Tory imposed retirement age of 66!
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  7. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

  8. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    What happened to the 'co-op' experiment ? I was working for another council when it started and went to visit Lambeth . The ideas seemed honourable at the time but the whole concept now seems to be way past its sell by date .
  9. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Who wrote this nonsense?

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  10. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    It never really happened.

    Take the Grove Adventure Playground in Loughborough Junction. Been closed for years due to cuts.

    Small group of volunteers have been working on it to get in in working order and grant from charity been obtained to reopen it.

    Ticks all the boxes for Cooperative Council idea.

    You would have thought Council officers / Labour Cllrs would be pulling out all the stops to help local community get this off the ground.

    No. It's taken months of persuasion. Up against officer resistance from the start.

    My personal experience of Co-op Council has been that it's been anything but cooperative.

    The New Labour Coop Council is like Cameron's Big Society. Meaningless and shallow.
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  11. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    It sounds like the sort of thing they have in Ambridge quite honestly.
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  12. Tricky Skills

    Tricky Skills Well-Known Member

    My dispute with the 'independent' Lambeth Life is that the Publisher is Ibrahim Dogus - the Labour Cllr for Bishop's ward. At least you knew with the original Lambeth Life that it was a load of hairy old bollocks, published by Lambeth.

    No byline appears online for that ridiculous puff piece. My RSS reader however pulled in the author as... Cllr Ibrahim Dogus. This might just be an RSS quirk.

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  13. Tricky Skills

    Tricky Skills Well-Known Member

    This shoddy piece of journalism was published on the eve of purdah. It basically asked Nu Labour stooge Ed Davie to explain why he is so bloody brilliant to the electorate.

    His personal vote went down btw in 2018.
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  14. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

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  15. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Does Ibrahim Dogus merit a Wikipedia page?
    İbrahim Doğuş - Wikipedia

    I remember going to a talk on Wikipedia which covered editing and accountability. I asked about something that had happened regarding Lambeth 10 or 15 years ago. There was a Wikipedia entry for Keith Fitchett (former Lib Dem housing spokesman in the 2002-2006 administration). This was clearly intended as Labour propaganda and the facts were in dispute, so I flagged it and changed it (assuming it had been written by Labour propaganda chief Torren Smith).

    More recently the article has in fact disappeared (although it could still be retrieve through the the Wayback Machine at the time of my question). The Wikipedia spokesman said that it is not normally the case that councillors are important enough to warrant a Wikipedia page - which is probably why it was removed.

    So my question is this - do people feel that Councillor Dogus might fail the Wikipedia "notability guideline"?

    The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. Please help to establish notability by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond its mere trivial mention. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted.
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  16. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Im not against Cllrs getting paid properly.

    What I am against is Labour Cllrs getting paid and behaving like Blairite anti working class Progress supporters.

    Take Cllr Edbrooke. I had the delight of dealing with her face to face when she was a Cabinet member in last administration. She is straight out of Planet Third Way Blairism. No exaggeration. Some of these Lambeth Labour party members are so right wing they are to the right of the Liberals.

    Unless you have the misfortune of dealing with them you might think I'm exaggerating.

    Now Cllr Edbrooke is:

    A post that suits her better than dealing with libraries, parks and leisure centres.Her last Cabinet post.

    She doesn't exactly have people skills. Though she will make a good
    whip as she is hard nosed Blaire true believer.

    Why bullying other Cllrs deserves this remuneration is beyond me.​
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  17. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Oh and I see Edbrooke has gone for bashing Bartley.

    God I loathe Lambeth Labour.
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  18. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    What the hell is a "corporate parent"?

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  19. fishfinger

    fishfinger تپلی

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  21. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Dogus does however, by virtue of not being either Mosley or Craig, come across comparatively ok. That of course may now change given he's a councilor and now in the public eye.
  22. Tricky Skills

    Tricky Skills Well-Known Member


    I've found Cllr Craig and Cllr Mosley to be very decent. They put up a bloody good fight for residents over the Garden Bridge, despite the Progress mob trying to push it though.

    Ditto with the shit Abba thingy.
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  23. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    Saw them at their hustings up Waterloo way. Whatever good they may do as councillors, they really didn't come across very well, nice, there compared to all of the other candidates. Although of course politeness is not everything in politics
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  24. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    Solidarity with Grenfell but this must have been an expensive bit of lighting, did anyone actually notice it last night? This picture from their twitter feed.

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  25. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I know I'm paranoid, but this Lambeth municipal scene seems to have echoes of the ultimate municipal distopia (c. 1927)
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  26. editor

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  28. organicpanda

    organicpanda cat herder extraodinaire

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  29. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Sounded a bit unlikely, I have to say.
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  30. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    This annoys me.

    Im rather afraid Grenfell is being made into one of those issues where the ruling establishment suddenly realised that the less well off should be treated well.

    Ive found treatment of this in media like Evening Standard mawkish. The ES over the years has done nothing to support affordable housing. Its been a cheerleader for property developers and the buy to let private landlords. Yet it cynically jumps on the bandwagon for Grenfell anniversary. I await double page spread spread in ES property pages extolling the virtues of Council housing and berating landlords/ property developers.

    So is Lambeth Labour Council going to call a halt to its regeneration schemes for estates? Is it going to listen to its tenants? One of the lessons of Grenfell was that tenants weren't listened to.

    As ViolentPanda knows.
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