Lambeth Council - Tree murdering scum.
- Thread starter Sesquipedalian
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Donna Ferentes said:
Thank you.
suzee blue cheese
Well-Known Member
One day a few years ago, I was just seeing some friends to the door when I heard a loud cracking thump from out back. When I went out to see what had happened there was a gurt big branch lying across where we'd been sitting. It had fallen from a tree on the Edmonsbury estate, out back of where I live. So I contacted the tree dept at Lambeth to try and get the it/them pruned properly.
The council did turn up and gave them an extremely light pruning. That was quite a few years ago. They turned up again about four years ago. I was vexed by this visit as they entered my garden without notifying me causing a bit of damage, not too much luckily.
Naming no names the head tree honcho assured me the trees would be put on an annual maintenance program but they haven't been. Perhaps he's been too busy ripping trees out..
The council did turn up and gave them an extremely light pruning. That was quite a few years ago. They turned up again about four years ago. I was vexed by this visit as they entered my garden without notifying me causing a bit of damage, not too much luckily.
Naming no names the head tree honcho assured me the trees would be put on an annual maintenance program but they haven't been. Perhaps he's been too busy ripping trees out..
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Walked through Blenheim Gardens estate last night (31st Jan). Half the trees still remain, but the whole central pedestrian area has been fenced off with "no access" signs. These have been ignored, and the fences pushed aside to enable continued access.
aurora green
Tectonic
Any news on this?
A friend and neighbour has informed me,
That he spoke to the tree murdering surgeons on the second day,
As they "worked" on another tree on the Estate.
(They were persuaded not to work too vigourously on the second tree.)
Asked why had they, "cut the first tree down ?"
They replied, "it was rotten at the base."
That is a lie !............And they know it.
It was a beautiful,healthy tree.........and they knew it.
That he spoke to the tree murdering surgeons on the second day,
As they "worked" on another tree on the Estate.
(They were persuaded not to work too vigourously on the second tree.)
Asked why had they, "cut the first tree down ?"
They replied, "it was rotten at the base."
That is a lie !............And they know it.
It was a beautiful,healthy tree.........and they knew it.
Fuzzy said:
I am not an expert on trees.
I have known this particular tree for over twenty years.
I have discussed this with some of my neighbours.
And we are all fucking angry about this.
We all think the tree was beautiful and healthy.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Sesquipedalian said:
I know how you feel. There was a fully grown London Plane tree just over the wall on the estate behind my flat. It was lovely - I'm on the second floor and in summer my bedroom looked right into the depths of the leaves rather than the (very ugly) houses on the estate. But guess what, the council decided to rebuild part of the estate and one evening I came home to find that the tree had gone. Disappeared. Utterly.
They had apparently published plans for the works on the estate but foolishly it never occurred to me that they would fell a fully grown tree in an area that wasn't even being rebuilt, so I didn't check.
Oh and this wasn't Lambeth, it was Westminster - you're not alone.
They had apparently published plans for the works on the estate but foolishly it never occurred to me that they would fell a fully grown tree in an area that wasn't even being rebuilt, so I didn't check.
Oh and this wasn't Lambeth, it was Westminster - you're not alone.
lighterthief
Well-Known Member
Yes, but obviously there is a difference between thinking a tree is healthy and knowing it is healthy. What did Lambeth have to say about it? Are they going to plant a new one?Sesquipedalian said:
john x
Well-Known Member
Donna Ferentes said:
A Forestry Officer in Lambeth? Maybe 300 years ago!
Having worked for the GLC's arboricultural section in the old days I can say that:
a. Trees aren't chopped down without a reason.
b. There are a number of reasons why a healthy looking tree may not be all that it seems. Falling trees will kill people. The council has a responsibility for the safety of its public before its trees.
What did the council give as a reason for chopping the tree down, when you complained to them?
When I worked for the GLC I was asked to arrange to have a tree in Angel town removed as the Queen Mother (gawd bless 'er) was visiting and the DPS considered the tree to be a cover for a sniper. I prevaricated as long as I could until I got a member's enquiry asking why it hadn't been done.
I managed to get the branch secretary of the NUPE branch, which represented our tree pruners, to convince his workers to refuse to carry out this act of wanton vandalism (despite one of them being a National Front member!) by which time I had left it too late to let a contract to an outside treework firm.
They so wanted to sack me but couldn't.
john x
The lambeth tree officer is Ryan Nixon [email protected]. or 0207 926 0548
Normally digital photos are taken of trees before chopping / pollarding them so there should be some proof if the tree is diseased.
Normally digital photos are taken of trees before chopping / pollarding them so there should be some proof if the tree is diseased.
Here's the council's offical reply. (I've suitably anonymised it - the full statement has gone to sesq.)
Dear Cllr,
In response to the issue raised in your enquiry I trust the following information will clarify any confusion there may be.
The council was contacted by a resident of [...] on the Canterbury Gardens Estate, regarding a health and safety problem caused by general light encroachment from a tree on the estate. The tree referred to is a mature “Horse Chestnut” (Aesculus hippocastanum), circa age of 70-85 years. It is recorded on the council tree system as T45.
At the time of my ground level inspection the tree was found to have extensive amounts of wounding at the base indicating internal decay extending to the root system. Also noted was large amounts of a small bacterial resin oozing from the stem known as “Phytophthora Bleeding Canker” which was causing the bark to die back, thus opening large wounds for infestation. I decided that removal and replacement would be the preferred long term option.
This was discussed with [...] and she informed me this information would be passed on to the TRA at the next meeting.
I trust the information I have provided will be sufficient to elevate any concerns you may have on the above subject issue. However should you have any further matters or tree related issues, please do not hesitate in contacting me.
Sincerely
Tree Officer
Environment & Culture
Dear Cllr,
In response to the issue raised in your enquiry I trust the following information will clarify any confusion there may be.
The council was contacted by a resident of [...] on the Canterbury Gardens Estate, regarding a health and safety problem caused by general light encroachment from a tree on the estate. The tree referred to is a mature “Horse Chestnut” (Aesculus hippocastanum), circa age of 70-85 years. It is recorded on the council tree system as T45.
At the time of my ground level inspection the tree was found to have extensive amounts of wounding at the base indicating internal decay extending to the root system. Also noted was large amounts of a small bacterial resin oozing from the stem known as “Phytophthora Bleeding Canker” which was causing the bark to die back, thus opening large wounds for infestation. I decided that removal and replacement would be the preferred long term option.
This was discussed with [...] and she informed me this information would be passed on to the TRA at the next meeting.
I trust the information I have provided will be sufficient to elevate any concerns you may have on the above subject issue. However should you have any further matters or tree related issues, please do not hesitate in contacting me.
Sincerely
Tree Officer
Environment & Culture
lighterthief
Well-Known Member
"Trees provide shade" - shock announcement!cllr said:
Well, at least they'll plant a new one I guess.
lighterthief
Well-Known Member
Ah fair play, you're probably rightcllr said:
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
cllr said:I trust the information I have provided will be sufficient toelevate
Sincerely
Tree Officer
Environment & Culture
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Sack the typist
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Hang on, isn't Canterbury Gardens supposed to have some tenant led project looking at the estate's open spaces with Groundwork Southwark?
Were any of them consulted on this?
Were any of them consulted on this?
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happyshopper
Well-Known Member
Yes, but what we really want to know is how is the tree getting on? Any chance of a picture?
chainsaw cat
Tea. Biccies. Happy now?
I bet it's fine. Needed pollarding. It'll be a mass of epicormics now.
