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Lad wanted to blow up BNP...

When his home in Colne was searched by police last September, 21 different chemicals including nitrates, chlorine, ammonia and acids were found.

The court heard that officers also discovered a stash of crossbows, air pistols, BB guns and ammunition, along with excessive amounts of rice, sugar and petrol.

When questioned, Mr Cottage told police it was a coincidence that he had bought a batch of chemicals just days after printing off recipes for explosive devices from the internet.

He told the court on Friday that he could not explain why detailed instructions for making a Molotov cocktail, a pipe hand grenade and dynamite were in his possession.
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Out by christmas.
 
scumbalina said:
I thought all teenages boys played with the Anarchist Cookbock at some time? Like modern Just Williams, blowing up their mums sheds for a laugh and the like...:confused:
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Yep. :o
We used to nick track detonators from the railway depot at Streatham too, and find ways to set them off.
 
Despite being accused of possessing the largest sum of chemical explosives of its type ever found domestically in Lancashire, a BNP member and a far right sypmapthiser will not face any terrorism related charges. Instead 49-year-old Robert Cottage, Colne and David Bolus Jackson, 62, from Nelson, appeared at a Pennine magistrate’s court charged under the Explosive Substances Act 1883. The case has also attracted little publicity despite the record haul which included the discovery of a rocket launcher and a nuclear biological suit
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Out by christmas. Honest views.
 
Honest bloke:

chemistry student, Edward Mattison, 21, from Salford, was sentenced to only 14 months on October 9, for possessing “Mother of Satan” chemical used by the July 7 bombers. Mattison was arrested after he detonated a device in his carriage at his Manchester home. Police also found a video showing Mattison setting the bomb in a M60 motorway field which left an 8ft crater.
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Old Davey Copeland:

escaped terrorism charges. In June 30, 2000, David John Copeland, now 30, was convicted only of murder despite carrying out a 12-day bombing campaign over three successive weekends in April 1999 aimed at London’s black, Asian, and gay communities.
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Another honest bloke:

In October 3, 2002, white supremacist David Tovey was found guilty of only two charges of racially aggravated criminal damage and explosive charges despite being on the verge of a murderous killing spree of Swindon Muslims. Unlike Copeland, who built his own nail bombs with information downloaded from far-right websites and some advice from fellow Nazis, Tovey had a massive arsenal of state-of-the-art British military plastic explosives, remote control devices to set it off and dozens of other pieces of lethal hardware. His main target was Swindon mosque where he stalked some of its 200 worshippers.
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Also while we have these honest blokes above these fuckers got what was coming ot them for waving placards about:

Mizanur Rahman, 24, Umran Javed, 27, and Abdul Muhid, 25, were each jailed for six years for inciting murder and racial hatred during a demonstration against cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed.

A fourth man, 32-year-old Abdul Saleem, was cleared of soliciting murder but convicted of inciting racial hatred. He was jailed for four years.
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cockneyrebel said:
Also while we have these honest blokes above these fuckers got what was coming ot them for waving placards about:
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But they waved the placards about live on national TV with an audience of millions. (The sentences are somewhat light in my opinion.)
 
ViolentPanda said:
Yep. :o
We used to nick track detonators from the railway depot at Streatham too, and find ways to set them off.
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Exactly. It's just part of growing up with a penis. Except in this case, rather than blowing up his sisters pet hamster or sticking a firewrok up a rats arse, this cheeky fella decided to play with some bigger vermin...
 
was googling and found this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/6089480.stm

Three men have been jailed for five years each for a racially-motivated nail bomb attack on a block of flats housing Portuguese and Polish workers.
The attack started a fire in the landing of the Old Brewery in Watton, near Thetford, Norfolk, in August 2005.

At Norwich Crown Court Paul Lusher, Sinclair Maynard and Daniel Taylor admitted causing an explosion but denied a racist motive.

Judge Peter Jacobs ruled that the attack was racially motivated.

No-one was injured in the attack. Lusher, 22, from Thetford and Maynard, 25, from Watton, received five year terms.

Taylor, 21, from Shipdham, was jailed for five and a half years.

Judge Jacobs said the attack had "put a community in fear". He said he had increased their sentences to reflect the racist motive.
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This court case was from the end of last year but I don't remember seeing much about it on the news. Is it just me or is this another case of a cover up?
 
chymaera said:
I thought it was ex BNP member and the court case got wide national coverage.
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Not really.

I'm from Lancashire, follow a few local news feeds and take note of the stories that make it national. The coverage of those two scrotes was low-key considering a) what they'd been up to and b) the current media obsession with the "war on terrah".

Wondering why seems a legitimate exercise.
 
Urbanblues said:
He wasn't...
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What kind of world we coming to when a lad gets arrested and charged for owning the anarchist's cookbook and yet a fash cunt with the biggest load of explosives ever seized in this country might be out in september.

If he was muslim ...

oh and i love the police's attitude ... it's almost like he was some harmless environmentalist hippy or something protesting outside parliament ... oh wait, it's not, because if he was ... :mad:
 
youre hardly likely to blow up anything larger than an ants nest with a copy of the anarchists cook book
 
Wilson said:
youre hardly likely to blow up anything larger than an ants nest with a copy of the anarchists cook book
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Legend has it that that book is a fake, containing dangerous* false recipies for explosives and designed specifically to make it easy to identify troublemakers (ie they're the ones with 'the anarchist cookbook' on their bookshelf at home).

*well duh, but I meant dangerous to those preparing the explosives...
 
frogwoman said:
What kind of world we coming to when a lad gets arrested and charged for owning the anarchist's cookbook and yet a fash cunt with the biggest load of explosives ever seized in this country might be out in september.

If he was muslim ...
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The kind of world that panders to the Bush and Blair’s ‘terrorist under the bed’ propaganda; a world made more dangerous since the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq; a world endangered by the US corporate war machine’s need to keep the threat of terrorism, if not its reality, ever-present.
frogwoman said:
oh and i love the police's attitude ... it's almost like he was some harmless environmentalist hippy or something protesting outside parliament ... oh wait, it's not, because if he was ... :mad:
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Didn’t the copper in question overstep his brief in forming an opinion on the convicted BNP terrorist? DI Hickey’s comments on the Cottage’s actions and motives sounding more like an apologia for him. Whatever happened to the uncompromising ‘Slipper of the Yard’ types; that relentlessly hounded their quarry across countries and continents; and, called a train robber a train robber?
 
ViolentPanda said:
Yep. :o
We used to nick track detonators from the railway depot at Streatham too, and find ways to set them off.
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I remember sitting through a police interview with 3 of them stuck down the front of my pants, where I'd hurriedly shoved them when the police raided my house once.:D
 
frogwoman said:
What kind of world we coming to when a lad gets arrested and charged for owning the anarchist's cookbook and yet a fash cunt with the biggest load of explosives ever seized in this country might be out in september.

If he was muslim ...

oh and i love the police's attitude ... it's almost like he was some harmless environmentalist hippy or something protesting outside parliament ... oh wait, it's not, because if he was ... :mad:
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He was a loon but they weren't exsplosives and bombs ready to to go .It was a stock pile of chemicals for the coming civil war.I'm sure if they could have proved he was anything other than a loon he would have been locked up for longer.
 
God even I've got a copy of the anarchist cookbook.

(Wasn't that one of the biggest mail order book successes of all time? Maybe not)
 
cockneyrebel said:
So this bloke gets two and a half years for stock piling rocket launchers and bomb materials and yet others get 4-6 years for holding up a placard saying "bomb the UK".......
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Whilst I think the sentence was too lenient, there is a distinct difference between the cases in that these fuckwits were stockpiling shit in case something (pretty unlikely) happened and hence were not an immediate threat whereas the other cases mentioned involved people convicted of actively plotting to cause explosions now. That said, the disproportionality in sentences and coverage could not be, in my view, entirely explained by that difference.
 
DJ Squelch said:
Is it just me or is this another case of a cover up?
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Why shout "cover-up" every fucking time? It's really tiresome and, one day, there will actually be a cover-up and no-one will listen when you shout.

You DO realise that the media decide what to cover, and how to cover it, and what not to cover don't you? And that they make their own decisions without the assistance of the police / government / MI5, etc. :rolleyes:
 
Alright maybe "cover up" is a bit much I don't think the BBC & media in gereral have some secret agenda to protect right wing terrorists but surely you can't deny that if muslims had been convicted of detonating a nail bomb it would of had more media coverage & stiffer sentences.

In the case involved in the OP of this thread, is there a chance the media have played down the BNP bit to stop the suspects family being targeted in retaliation?
 
It's more to do with the institutional interests of the media rather than a cover up.

Whilst I think the sentence was too lenient, there is a distinct difference between the cases in that these fuckwits were stockpiling shit in case something (pretty unlikely) happened and hence were not an immediate threat whereas the other cases mentioned involved people convicted of actively plotting to cause explosions now. That said, the disproportionality in sentences and coverage could not be, in my view, entirely explained by that difference.
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No the blokes who got 4-6 years were just waving placards about and shouting stuff out at a demo, they hadn't stock piled anything and weren't plotting anything. How can you get 4-6 years for waving a placard and shouting stuff out and someone else get 2 and a half years for having the biggest ever haul of explosives and a rocket launcher?

As for them being an immediate threat, who knows? Someone like that could easily do a David Copeland. And how could David Tovey and David Copeland not be charged with terrorist offences?
 
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