i'll drink to that
Labours only hope now...
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i'll drink to that
and hes the guy on that new citron germanic car advert
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
In some possible cheering-up news, there is a small rebellion going on right now with regards to the Temporary & Agency Workers Bill, where some Labour rebels and the Lib Dems are looking to get past the Second Reading, the committee stage being tommorrow.
Sadly, it is being half-opposed, half-ignored by some random minister and a particularly odious and callow youth posing as some form of Shadow Employment Minister.
edit: apparently, the Govt are not in favour of the Bill but are not opposing money going to the Bill if it passes.
Sadly, it is being half-opposed, half-ignored by some random minister and a particularly odious and callow youth posing as some form of Shadow Employment Minister.
edit: apparently, the Govt are not in favour of the Bill but are not opposing money going to the Bill if it passes.
nightbreed
Im Bored
While usually I would agree with this , the problem is now that it would be too late to do all this.
1.The Labour Leader job is like the poison chalice. It would put a left leader into a job that will oversea defeat at the next election.Then all the Blairites/Tories will scream, told you so, radical policies loses elections, just like in the 80s and 90s.
2.The Labour Party structurally and organisationally not fit for purpose. It would need an entire revolution in the LP itself to change it back to a proper workers organisation.
3. the party is full of trendy middle class wankers and their focus groups and 'newlabourspeak'!! Unless you go in there with guns loaded so to speak, and fuck emn off into the Liberals or the Tories they wont go no where.
Unfortunately there may be a certain logic in saying lets wait for defeat at the next general election.But who wants the fucking Tories back?
I'll get me coat.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
There are certain points in that which I agree with:
i) It is the poison chalice at the moment - but lets not forget that less than a year ago Cameron was under severe pressure building up to the party conference season, there is every chance that the restoration of some sanity and imposition of a coherent (or lets face it, any) direction at the top could well swing things back the other way;
ii) I agree the LP needs change, albeit this is more about the top not abusing its position over the rest;
iii) yes, it is full of careerists but the advantage of that is that they have a career to blackmail them with.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
This is, increasingly, also true of the far-left (or ex-far left as it ought to be called).
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Mascara-Boy Purnell is on the Daily Politics now claiming that the issues he has come across on the desktop relate to this idea of "the squeezed middle (class)" ( 
) and expanded a little more on the immigration changes coming up - and refused to deny when pressed by Andrew Neil (who would have thought the likes of him would be pointing this shit out eh?) that this is "British Jobs for British Workers".
Neil is now busily deflating the Government's argument on the 10p tax row.
) and expanded a little more on the immigration changes coming up - and refused to deny when pressed by Andrew Neil (who would have thought the likes of him would be pointing this shit out eh?) that this is "British Jobs for British Workers".Neil is now busily deflating the Government's argument on the 10p tax row.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The EU said that "British Jobs for British Workers" is illegal, so he's obv trying to give the impression that this is the real policy without saying as much - someone will hammer him on that. It sounds like neill should have.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Labour are dead to think they have one last hope is a joke
what we have are corperate multinational administrators whose only ideaology is to make money.
what we have are corperate multinational administrators whose only ideaology is to make money.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I heard a funny rumour today, David Cameron's considering backing a referendum for independence in Scotland. The thinking being that they can't win there and Labour can't win a General Election without it. Letting Scotland go will effectively mean there wont be a Labour government again leading to the demise of the party...
Purnell seem to be trying to get a higher media profile, maybe the leadership, he has just posted an article on Guardian CIF.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/james_purnell/2008/05/up_from_the_ashes_1.html
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/james_purnell/2008/05/up_from_the_ashes_1.html
untethered
For industry & decency
I think, perhaps like Labour, he's hoping that the referendum will say No to secession, after which point the question will be buried for a good few more years.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Having seen that pic I now realise that the person being grilled earlier on the Daily Politics was Andy Burnham. All the negativity should therefore apply to him, apart from the negativity that was caused by that CiF garbage.
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