Labour Councillor defects to Respect
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Fisher_Gate
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TAE said:
Many people support hanging or making homosexuality illegal - but they are wrong.
Biggest left of centre votes
What I meant to say was biggest votes left of the Labour Party. Plus I will hold my hands up to the success in the past of the CP -In 2005, Respect contested 26 seats, won 68,071 votes and won one seat. CP in 1945 contested 21 seats, won 102,780 votes and won 2 seats.
I stand in shame....but quotes not from Respect - 2006 "the election results achieved by Respect in the English local elections - were qualitatively better than achieved for many years by any party of the left". "The results in Newham and Tower Hamlets were remarkable by any standards for a left party...to get these results it polled a massive 86,000 votes across two boroughs - 23% of the vote".
Galloway "the first MP to be elected on behalf of a party standing to the left of Labour. since the CP's finest hour in 1945".
Whatever anyone says - these are impressive results for a left party.
What I meant to say was biggest votes left of the Labour Party. Plus I will hold my hands up to the success in the past of the CP -In 2005, Respect contested 26 seats, won 68,071 votes and won one seat. CP in 1945 contested 21 seats, won 102,780 votes and won 2 seats.
I stand in shame....but quotes not from Respect - 2006 "the election results achieved by Respect in the English local elections - were qualitatively better than achieved for many years by any party of the left". "The results in Newham and Tower Hamlets were remarkable by any standards for a left party...to get these results it polled a massive 86,000 votes across two boroughs - 23% of the vote".
Galloway "the first MP to be elected on behalf of a party standing to the left of Labour. since the CP's finest hour in 1945".
Whatever anyone says - these are impressive results for a left party.
cockneyrebel
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Only eh, still far more than the whole of the organised revolutionary left put together in this country today.
No-one on here is gonna deny that there is very little difference between the LP manifesto in 1983 and the RESPECT manifesto today. In fact the main difference is that the LP manifesto was far, far more detailed.
Streathamite
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IIRC, that manifesto was also incredibly incoherent, the result of having to satisdfy the camps of both healey and benn
Streathamite
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galloway, yaqoob, rees, bennet, harman, calllinicos, ridley, german....Fisher_Gate said:
and your agricultural policy, despite sounding great in theory, is actually unworkable, and what there is of your immigration policy, unless implemented in a fuly socialist global economy, would actually shaft the workers badly
Streathamite
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yeah, but the compettitions hardly frightening, is it?Zeppo said:
Well exactly. Where did the Red Jezza's go? They did fuck all. At least they're (RESPECT and supporters) giving it a go. Why slag off this bloke who's broke to the left. Why are labour lefts admired but those that break from labour despised?
Streathamite
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I'm sorry, but what's the reference to me for? below the belt imononamenopackdrill said:
I fuly accept the need for a new socialist party- but this way will not just fail, it will set the left back for years.
the IWCA way is in fact the only way; slow, painstaking building from the grassroots, led by w/c communities. this wasn't that. it started out as a cook up between the SWP CC and the MAB hierarchy, and to me it's patently obvious the people following the latter are being used.
Streathamite
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aren't you forhetting something the CP was a pro-stalin party facing the most socialist platfiorm Labour ever put out, and with a far smaller electorate (nb electorate not turnout)Zeppo said:
Streathamite
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have you seen the most recent policy statement on the website (date 25/04/06). it's hard to see ANYONE left of (say) peter hain opposing it. but that's the crunch; it simply boils down to one long parade of lofty aspirations, without - by and large - commitments needed to show HOW all this would be achieved. until those commitments follow, in detail, you're just humming mood music.Fisher_Gate said:
In other words, you're apeing new AND old Labour far more than you want to admit
Fisher_Gate
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Fullyplumped said:
Further coverage of the NHS privatisation battle in Preston from today's local press (and Respect's web photographer) below.
http://www.lep.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2048182&SectionID=73
http://www.prestonrespect.org/gallery/index.php?gallery=./NHS - CAT protest
A march is planned shortly - that is likely to be the biggest march in Preston ... er ... since the last one last year (500 over Israel's attack on Lebanon last year called by STWC and Respect).
Michael Lavalette/Respect and Unison are the main campaign force - with the pro-privatisation parties (Lab, LibDems, Cons) nowhere to be seen.
Does anyone on these boards seriously think that we would be better off without any Respect councillors like Michael Lavalette and yet more new Labour clones instead? Linking up with unions fighting battles on behalf of working people - isn't that what left wing councillors should be doing? Come on you cynics! You can slag off Respect but its councillors are actually getting these battles supported and people mobilised.
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