Donna Ferentes
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By "great drama" I was thinking of the fact that it was an injury-time goal that kept them up...
a little bit too much drama for my liking.Donna Ferentes said:Meanwhile, great drama in Barcelona the night before!
he's been going to leave at the end of the season since January. I don't know why people are making a big deal of it.g force said:Indeed - manager saves club from relegation and then quits! although, I imagine he was given a helping hand out of the door.
What was all that about?mrkikiet said:the phantom depor goal was a little bit too much.
no idea. the whole stadium started going mental, at which point the guy along the row with a radio just started shaking his head.Donna Ferentes said:What was all that about?
Cracking end to a turbulent Season for Bilbao and Clemente has left but we will be back stronger next season
Feel free to argue the choices!
As his manager Bernd Schuster put it so well "It's obviously better to kick shit out of Messi than to actually have a good season, if you want to go the World Cup." And he';s right - if this guy played for Real, Barca or Valencia he'd be on the plane.Some of those look worryingly similar g-force.Phil Ball said:1. Goalkeeper. Andrés Palop (Sevilla). This is always tricky, because there are so many good 'uns in Spain, but I'll stick out my neck for this guy.
2. Full-back, right side. Dani Alvés (Sevilla). .
3. Full-back , left side. Mariano Andrés Pernía. (Getafe) Everyone else is raving about him, so I guess I better had too. Not only are they raving about the Argentine goal-scoring defender, they have also been complaining loudly that he should have gone to Germany, having this year taken out Spanish nationality.
4. Central defender. Rafa Marquéz (Barcelona) Puyol had a good season, but this guy was the pick for me. Hard as nails but clever with it, quick on his feet and good with the ball, the Mexican has looked the complete defender, despite being injured several times during the season. Shame about that pony-tail though.
5. Central Defender. Sergio Ramós (Real Madrid) Despite the fact that for some he is neither fish nor fowl (is he a full-back or a centre-back?), he has been one of the few things that Real Madrid got right this season. When he's played at centre-half he's looked more convincing than at full-back, especially because he plays in that classic role as semi-sweeper behind a more conventional centre-back like Pavón, Woodgate or Mejía.
6. Right midfield. Jesús Navas (Sevilla) I'm never sure about whether to classify 'wingers' as midfielders or forwards, but anyway, you know what I mean. This young pup - a local boy too - should definitely have gone to Germany in place of the congenitally inconsistent Joaquín, but there you have it.
7. Central midfielder. Marcos Senna (Villarreal) If Luis Aragonés mucked it up with Pernía and Navas, he got it right with Senna. Taking the nationalised Brazilian to the World Cup was a clever move, since the guy that everyone expected to go, Valencia's Baraja, had not had a great season. Senna, meanwhile, has grown into the role of hod-carrier for the sublime Riquelme, whom he replaces here in the first eleven. Watching Senna this season was to observe sacrifice at its very best. . But Senna is the closest Spain has to a Makelele, only a more ambitious one when it comes to attacking.
8. Left sided midfielder. Ronaldinho (Barcelona) Erm... if Ronaldinho is one, then I'll go for him, I guess. He sort of hangs out over there, from time to time. Predictable choice, of course, but he wins his place in the starting line-up for the simple fact that he is the first player for many a moon to coax reluctant applause from the Bernabéu hard core. Brought tears to the eyes, it did.
9. Striker. David Villa (Valencia) How come Valencia always produce this kind of player? Well - he was at Zaragoza before, but like Mista before him, he's confounded everyone, pushing eventual 'Pichichi' Eto'o all the way and scoring 25 goals this season for an oddly inconsistent team that nevertheless finished third, largely thanks to their new striker. Kept Kluivert on the sidelines all season, and is now the country's hope for Germany. A lot rests on his powerful shoulders. Raúl is now crap, Morientes will be watching from a swimming-pool somewhere, and Torres is the most overrated player since pizza was predicted to replace sliced bread... if you see what I mean.
10. Another two strikers. Savo Milosevic (Osasuna)/ Sam Eto'o (Barcelona) Well let's have a couple. Controversial choices perhaps, but I like old Savo. He seems to have been around for ever, and I can recall him famously spitting at one of his own supporters in his old Aston Villa days. No such nonsense now, and although his eleven goals this season is hardly a quantity to stop the heart, Savo has led the line wonderfully this campaign, linking up play with his subtle touches, nodding down balls to the team's speedy attacking midfielders, and generally making a nuisance of himself, despite the fact that he's been looking half-knackered for various years now. A journeyman striker perhaps, but in the twilight of his career it'll be nice to see him play in the Champions League. Eto'o is the complete striker though. Fast, lethal, and completely barking, his obsessive quest for top scorer at last paid off this year (after having missed out last year on the last day). His goals always seemed to be the vital ones, often winning Barça those games in which they didn't play particularly well. Probably relieved to hear that Henry's staying in London.
11. Man in the hole. Henrique Ewerthon (Zaragoza) That's the funny position that everyone talks about, behind the striker, lurking with intent. Maybe Messi does it best, but since he didn't play enough to qualify, I reckon the bloke at Zaragoza, Ewerthon, was the next best, hanging in there behind Milito and for a while forming a lethal partnership which threatened to take Zaragoza places. They fell away alarmingly towards the end of the season, but the Brazilian showed what he could do - with an electric turn of pace. Might be on his way to bigger things and a larger salalry next season.
• Honourable mentions: Ludovic Delporte (Osasuna), Henrik Larsson (Barcelona), José Manuel Pinto (Celta), Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona), Juan Fernando Arango (Mallorca)
g force said:Very true - probably because we discussed it at the CL final and made notes![]()