Kurt Cobain would have been 40 today...
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copliker said:
i kinda did. the singles were always good - even as far as Summer and Screen Door and that. But there was always something a bit workmanlike about them, a bit plodding.
Saw them with The Lemonheads once, that was a good gig.
floria_tosca said:
Even if he'd have lived, it's hard for me to imagine him not being constantly dogged by unflattering comparisons with his 'glory days' in Nirvana. In the very end, he himself apparently thought it was '...better to burn out than to fade away...'.
Then again, contemporaries from that era/scene like Mark Lanegan are just hitting their double-whammy stride of prolific output coupled with critical acclaim, so I suppose it's not impossible that Cobain could've been doing similar things if he'd lived.
Dubversion said:
i think kurt wrote songs like lullabies, which is often a good basis for any good song - anyone agree?
Definitely one of my favourite bands in my teens. Before they came along I had never really heard much 'good' music, I had only been exposed to the top 40, pop music etc, for the most part. Nevermind just blew me away and I listened to it constantly, and then it opened up the doors to stuff like pixies, soundgarden, screaming trees, jesus lizard, butthole surfers, sonic youth, mudhoney etc. Knew pearl jam were a corporate wank band pretending to be alternative straight away though
When he killed himself that was the start of my caring less. and getting into other sorts of music - ambient, dance music etc.
Don't listen to them often now. Prefer listening to say Sonic Youth today than Nirvana, or even Screaming Trees.
Mark Lanegan is one I'm glad to see still doing well - if anything arguably more fashionable today than back then. I'm quite sure back then the Trees kind of fell between two camps (i.e. 'glamorous' grunge a la pearl jam on the one hand, and 'proper' grunge a la mudhoney on the other), and i seem to recall not that many people really rating him, but now he is doing really well, nearly winning the mercury prize etc.
When he killed himself that was the start of my caring less. and getting into other sorts of music - ambient, dance music etc.
Don't listen to them often now. Prefer listening to say Sonic Youth today than Nirvana, or even Screaming Trees.
Mark Lanegan is one I'm glad to see still doing well - if anything arguably more fashionable today than back then. I'm quite sure back then the Trees kind of fell between two camps (i.e. 'glamorous' grunge a la pearl jam on the one hand, and 'proper' grunge a la mudhoney on the other), and i seem to recall not that many people really rating him, but now he is doing really well, nearly winning the mercury prize etc.
Yeah I had their album. It was kind of screaming trees ish I thought, but not as good 
Loads of bands were all lumped in together then. Heck, even Pavement, who sounded more like the Fall and other British indie acts, were lumped in with pearl jam...
rekil
to menny cranks
I'm delighted that Mark Lanegan is still putting out great records and never went down the Soul Asylum route. I loved all the Screaming Trees stuff, in fact I loved nearly everything on SST.RenegadeDog said:
He did like cheesy pop tunes as well as discordant punk stuff yes. So did Mr.Pixies guy, he described the band as being a cross between peter paul and mary and husker du. Nirvana had similar ideas but went at it a different way. The sound on Nevermind is basically Metal Circus/Zen Arcade era Husker Du. Dunno why they get accused of ripping off the Pixies, teen spirit is as much debaser as it is Boston's fab more than a feeling.Cheesypoof said:
Yeah Teen Spirit is their only pixies-ish one IMVHO
free spirit
more tea vicar?
I somehow don't seem to own any of my old nirvana albums anymore, but I actually quite like it that way coz every so often I'll stumble across one of the albums at a friends house, stick it on and lose myself in it for an hour or 2.
was a bit gutting when he died, but you just knew it was going to happen, it always seemed more a question of when not if he was going to fullfil his live fast die young destiny.
happy birthday kurt, glad you never had to witness the bullshit that's been going on the last few years
was a bit gutting when he died, but you just knew it was going to happen, it always seemed more a question of when not if he was going to fullfil his live fast die young destiny.
happy birthday kurt, glad you never had to witness the bullshit that's been going on the last few years
You mean in music - nu metal etc - or the war on terror etc?
The_Reverend_M
More bass, vicar?
The Foos first two albums are good. Third album patchy. All down hill after that.
I thought the Foos were utterly bland really. Grohl is one of (IMO) the best drummers ever, and what a waste. I class them on the same level as someone like Ash.
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
Never really got into them, prefered Mudhoney... and the deification of Kurt was one of the reasons I got into old school 'ardore rather than Grunge...
But I remember vividly where I was when he died
at a Primal Scream allnighter in Brixton accademy... at about 1am bobby G came on stage and went
' (incomprehensible scottish accented methodone mumble) Cobaine (incomprehensible scottish accented methodone mumble) rawk and rool '
and then the dejays started playing nivanna mid set and half the crowd stopped dancing and looked confused
I only found out that he was dead when I was coming down at about 7am listening to the radio
But I remember vividly where I was when he died
at a Primal Scream allnighter in Brixton accademy... at about 1am bobby G came on stage and went
' (incomprehensible scottish accented methodone mumble) Cobaine (incomprehensible scottish accented methodone mumble) rawk and rool '
and then the dejays started playing nivanna mid set and half the crowd stopped dancing and looked confused
I only found out that he was dead when I was coming down at about 7am listening to the radio
I was in France, Easter holidays 1994, doing a two week last-minute-pre-A-levels-top-up-course near the swiss border. Was placed in a house staying with this old lady. I came into the front room, suddenly the TV started playing Nirvana, which seemed random considering it was French TV, in the middle of the day. The old lady turned to me and said "Il a suicidee". I'll never forget that moment.
Re. the deification... it was quite different for me, as at my school they were all into dire straits, eric clapton, the beatles etc. Only a few other people liked nirvana, so i didn't get the overexposure thing
OK that was a slight exaggeration, but I still found the Foos quite unchallenging compared to Nirvana, who were IMO the most 'out there' band to ever attain that kind of global celebrity. How many other multi multi multi million selling bands have put out tracks as hardcore as "Scentless Apprentice"...
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
Bleach is a frickin' awesome record - still sounds great now.
Nevermind was too slick (yeah I well aware they wanted to do it that way) and In Utero showed they were coming up with some decent ideas.
Re: te deificiation - I agree Dub, but it's sorta understandable because the band came along at a time when teenagers were crying out for something.
Nevermind was too slick (yeah I well aware they wanted to do it that way) and In Utero showed they were coming up with some decent ideas.
Re: te deificiation - I agree Dub, but it's sorta understandable because the band came along at a time when teenagers were crying out for something.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
nirvana were teh first band that really spoke to me in the way that music only really does when you're an alienated suburban teen. i'm a massive fan, even to the state where i wrote my lit. dissertation on his use of imagery and metaphor, and presented a documentary for mtv europe a few years ago because of it. even as a grown up listening to in utero can still grab me at times, fill me with THAT feeling. the first verse of scentless apprentice, the feedback on very ape, kurt howling "she will come back as fire / and burn all the liars" on francis farmer... superb record. i really must track down those original albini recordings sometime and have my mind completely blown.
One other thing i would add is that when i was at school back then, everyone (all the beatles/dire straits etc fans i mentioned above) said that nobody would remember nirvana in 10 years time, that they were a flash in the pan talentless band. well that's been proved wrong; when i went to reading in 2001 i couldnt' believe how many teenagers had nirvana t shirts.
mtbskalover
drive,ski,drive,ski
RenegadeDog said:
yeah still to this day you see little kids in their early teens wearing a nirvana hoody or t-shirt.
RIP MATE!
I watched the documentary and thought that it was really good. Guns 'n' Roses base man came out of it well (and is looking good). What's going on with the original drummer's eyebrow's is that some sort of disguise?
Kurt was fucked-up, wanted it, didn't want it and didn't stand a chance. If he'd had one of those manipulative managers he'd have probably ended up fucked-up but old.
RIP Kurt.
Kurt was fucked-up, wanted it, didn't want it and didn't stand a chance. If he'd had one of those manipulative managers he'd have probably ended up fucked-up but old.
RIP Kurt.
psycherelic
I'm not an old hippy!
RIP kurt
Ya old bastard
Ya old bastard
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