Kropotkin in London

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  1. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Anyone know where Kropotkin spent his thirty years living in London? the more precise details the better...thanks.
  2. The Sick Anchor

    The Sick Anchor Banned Banned

  3. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    He apparently had an ace garden, where he experimented with intensive food production methods.

    He was also a good friend of William Morris while he lived there and may have had some unacknowledged influence on the Arts and Crafts movement.
  4. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    I used to live in bromley - its funny that I never heard that before - Bromley likes to make a big deal out of HG Wells and even the punk "Bromley contingent" gets a mention amongst famous residents.

    For those that could care less:
    6 Crescent Road, Bromley, BR1
    A little page about him in Bromley here...
  5. Maggot

    Maggot The Cake of Liberty

    They covered this on the Robert Elms show a while back. It's funny that Kropotkin lived in an area which is now very conservative. When he lived there it wasn't part of London but a completely separate Kentish town.
  6. HackneyE9

    HackneyE9 Well-Known Member



    There's a plaque down Crystal Palace/Sydenham way to someone wholly unexpected too, but I't remember who it was.:oops: Cezanne?

    Whereas the Rimbaud/Verlaine one on Royal College Street is entirely fitting.
  7. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    Ah, now *there's* an aspiration.

    (looks out of window at holes in patio, considers doing more digging, goes to pub!)
  8. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Yep, real sleazy looking terraced house with peeling paint. I used to live in spitting distance of that place.
  9. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    Camille Pissaro - blue plaque in Westow Hill, Upper Norwoord IIRC.
  10. HackneyE9

    HackneyE9 Well-Known Member

    Not far off, then! ;)
  11. kropotkin

    kropotkin libcom

    I live in Streatham.
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  12. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Since asking the question in 2007 this article has been written which has very thorough movements all across London (though yes, most of his stay was in Bromley).
    Im C&Ping it here in case it ever goes missing!
    Russians in London: Pyotr Kropotkin

    Russians in London: Pyotr Kropotkin
    [​IMG]The geographer and anarchist Prince Pyotr Kropotkin first arrived in England in July 1876, fresh from his legendary escape from the Peter and Paul fortress in St Petersburg. He lived briefly in Edinburgh, and earned a living writing for The Times and the journal Nature, but it would be another ten years before he settled in London. His first visit to London was in July 1881 to attend the International Anarchist Congress. Most sources suggest this took place at a pub in Charrington Street, Somers Town (Quail, p. 16) that has been identified in this timeline (p. 37) as the Brewer’s Hall (no longer there, but at no. 59, according to the Dead Pubs website). George Woodcock states that the congress began on 14th July on Charrington Street, and included ‘a fair array of the celebrated names of anarchism. Malatesta and Merlino, Kropotkin and Nicholas Chaikovsky, Louise Michel and Emile Pouget’ (Anarchism, pp. 241-3). However, Stan Shipley notes that ‘The Radical (23 July 1881) reports a congress held on Monday July 18th at the Cleveland Hall, Fitzroy Square, with […] speeches from Marie Le Compte, the transatlantic agitator, Louise Michel, and Kropotkin’ (p. 60).

    Kropotkin moved with his wife Sophie to Islington in October of the same year, and with Chaikovsky was active ‘touring the metropolitan radical clubs to collect money for the Red Cross Society of the People’s Will’ (Shipley, p. 13), to support those imprisoned after the assassination of Tsar Alexander II.

    [​IMG]One meeting at which Kropotkin spoke in May 1882, held at the Patriotic Club, Clerkenwell Green (now the Marx Memorial Library), erupted into an argument between George Standring, editor of The Republican, and Charles Murray of the Manhood Suffrage League, over whether this Red Cross was a political or a philanthropic movement. At this meeting Kropotkin also met the young anarchist Ambrose Barker, and accepted his invitation to speak at the Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club (Shipley, p. 36), so this undated handbill (reproduced from Shipley) advertising ‘Prince Krapotkine’s’ [sic] appearance on 4th June must also be from 1882.

    But despite such activity, Kropotkin’s first stay in London was not a happy experience, and he left a year later, apparently unable to bear the solitude, and declaring in his Memoirs of a Revolutionist ‘Better a French prison than this grave’ (II, 254). And a French prison was indeed where he ended up, following his arrest in December 1882 for belonging to the International Working Men’s Association (the First International).

    After his release in January 1886, Kropotkin and his wife arrived back in London in March 1886, staying at first with his fellow exile Sergei Stepniak-Kravchinsky in St John’s Wood. He immediately became involved in political and propaganda activities, stating in his Memoirs, ‘[t]he socialist movement was in full swing, and life in London was no longer the dull, vegetating existence that it had been for me four years before. We settled in a small cottage in Harrow’ (II, 306). Some might see a contradiction between these two sentences, but I couldn’t possibly comment. The attractions of Harrow apparently included the proximity of his old comrade Nikolai Chaikovsky (Morris, p. 60) and a nice garden (both Kropotkin and his wife were keen gardeners). I have not yet been able to establish the precise location of this house.

    Freedom Press Publishers and Bookshop, Angel Alley, Whitechapel

    That first summer in London was a difficult period; Sophie was severely ill with typhus, and Kropotkin received news of his brother’s suicide, shortly before he had been due for release from Siberian exile (George Kennan describes his encounter with Alexander Kropotkin in Siberia and the Exile System, I, 325-33). By October 1886 Kropotkin had written the majority of the first issue of the anarchist-communist monthly journal Freedom, published by Charlotte Wilson, which was the first step to the foundation of the Freedom Press, still located in Whitechapel today. Aside from this, and resuming his scientific journalism, again for The Times and Nature, he also spoke at workers’ and anarchists’ meetings around the country, and met both middle- and working-class anarchists.

    [​IMG]Fishman has a good deal of information on this (pp. 193-268). On 1 November 1890, Kropotkin appeared at a meeting at the Mile End Assembly Hall (site of the Tower Hamlets Mission), alongside Stepniak-Kravchinsky, Feliks Volkhovsky, Eleanor Marx, William Morris and others, to protest against persecution of Jews in Russia (p. 193; handbill reproduced from Fishman). The following year, on 11 November, Kropotkin was one of the speakers at a memorial meeting for the Chicago Martyrs at the South Place Institute (the Ethical Society, which later moved to Conway Hall, Red Lion Square); other speakers included Louise Michel and Errico Malatesta (p. 207). On 7 February 1896, he gave a lecture at the Working Lads’ Institute, 137 Whitechapel Road (p. 218). Particularly notable was the march from Mile End Waste and rally in Hyde Park on 21 June 1903 in protest at the Kishinev pogrom; 25,000 people gathered and Kropotkin, who arrived late, was lifted over the heads of the crowd, giving short speeches in Russian and English despite his illness (p. 252). Advised by his doctor to retire from public speaking, Kropotkin nevertheless contributed to the inaugural ceremony and series of Friday lectures at the workers’s club established in February 1906 at 165 Jubilee Street (p. 265). The building is no longer there.


    But despite these activities and the appreciative reception Kropotkin always seems to have received, he formed the ‘conviction that a revolution was impossible in England’ (Memoirs, II, 312), because the demands the workers were making had not yet reached the level of those of the socialists, and he felt that as a result even the slightest improvements in conditions would be deemed acceptable. But in some quarters Kropotkin was also considered too gradualist; in 1909, Rudolf Rocker had to dissuade a group of young Russians from their plan to assassinate Kropotkin on the grounds that his moderate influence was holding back the revolutionary forces (Fishman, p. 272).

    Kropotkin gradually moved from propaganda to intellectual activities, and published a number of his best-known theoretical writings whilst in London, including The Conquest of Bread (1892), Fields, Factories and Workshops (1899), and Mutual Aid(1902), as well as In Russian and French Prisons (1887) and Memoirs of a Revolutionist (1899). But he clearly maintained an important position and was seen as an authority; when Shaul (Saul) Yanovsky, the editor of the Yiddish socialist newspaper Arbeter Fraint, was felt to be damaging the paper because of his authoritarian tendencies, it was Kropotkin who was called in to warn him of the damage he was doing (Fishman, p. 208).
  13. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Kropotkin’s house, 6 Crescent Road, Bromley

    In summer 1894, he and his wife moved to 6 Crescent Road, Bromley (again, the garden was important, and at least it had the advantage of being a remote suburb in South London, rather than North), commemorated with a blue plaque.[​IMG]

    This became an open house for anarchist exiles, and British socialists such as Keir Hardie (Morris, p. 69). Life was not easy, though; Fishman notes that it was practically a hand-to-mouth existence, and there was never any money in the house – when Stepniak visited Bromley from Hammersmith, Sophie had to borrow money from the neighbours for his return ticket (p. 222). Nevertheless, he gave financial support to anarchist causes, including donating money to the Arbeter Fraint so that it could continue publishing (Graur, p. 94). Perhaps the most notable incident of his life in Bromley happened in January 1905, when news of the Bloody Sunday massacre in St Petersburg reached Britain. According to his nephew, who was staying with him at the time, the cottage was besieged by reporters who wanted to interview Kropotkin. He was ill at the time, and just sent out a note with ‘Down with the Romanovs!’ written on it (Woodcock and Avakumovic, p. 365), which conjures up a rather marvellous picture.

    This period saw increasing numbers of Russian (mostly Jewish) immigrants to the East End, who formed not only the largest Russian emigre group in Europe, but also the largest anarchist group in Britain. With the increase in activity this implied, Kropotkin remained involved despite increasing health problems. He participated in further anarchist conferences in London in December 1904 and October 1906 (Woodcock and Avakumovic, p. 360), and in October 1906, he also helped launch a new periodical, Listki khleb i volia (Pages from Bread and Freedom), the forerunner of which (Bread and Freedom) had been published by young radicals who returned to Russia after the 1905 revolution.

    Dunstan Houses, Stepney Green

    This venture lasted less than a year, but reinforced his contacts within anarchist groups; the journal was printed at 33 Dunstan Houses, Stepney Green, the headquarters of Yiddish anarchism and home of its de-facto leader, Rudolf Rocker (Fishman, p. 268). It was to this magnificent block (built in 1899 and still there in all its glory) that Kropotkin took one one of his visitors, Afanasy Matushenko, one of the leaders of the Potemkin mutiny, in late 1905 (Fishman, p. 258). But he also, in these later years, began to work with the authorities; in 1909, in co-operation with the British parliamentary committee on Russian affairs, he produced the report The Terror in Russia, which had a great impact on British opinion of Russia at the time (Woodcock and Avakumovic, p. 373).

    [​IMG]Two years later, Kropotkin and his wife moved to Chesham Street, Kemp Town, Brighton (I do not know which house), which, according to Woodcock and Avakumovic, ‘looked like a dull end to an active life’ (p. 387) — perhaps an odd observation, considering the long years of suburban life. In his later years he became isolated from much of the anarchist movement because he saw the war as necessary to protect France from German absolutism and militarism (Grauer, pp.111-20). Like many Russian exiles, he returned to Russia with his family after the February revolution of 1917, but he was unenthusiastic about the Bolshevik revolution. He died in 1921 near Moscow.

    William J. Fishman, East End Jewish Radicals, 1875-1914 (London: Duckworth, 1975)
    Mina Graur, An Anarchist ‘Rabbi’: The Life and Teaching of Rudolf Rocker (New York: St Martin’s Press; Jerusalem: The Magnes Press, 1997)
    James W. Hulse, Revolutionists in London: A Study of Five Unorthodox Socialists(Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1970)
    George Kennan, Siberia and the Exile System (New York: Century, 1891), 2 vols
    P. Kropotkin, Memoirs of a Revolutionist (London: Smith, Elder & Co., 1899), vol. 2
    Brian Morris, The Anarchist Geographer: An Introduction to the Life of Peter Kropotkin (Minehead: Genge Press, 2007)
    John Quail, The Slow Burning Fuse: The Lost History of British Anarchists (London: Flamingo, 1978)
    Stan Shipley, Club Life and Socialism in Mid-Victorian London (London: Journeyman/London History Workshop Centre, 1983)
    G. M. Stekloff, History of the First International (London: Martin Lawrence, 1928)
    George Woodcock and Ivan Avakumovic, The Anarchist Prince: A Biographical Study of Peter Kropotkin (London: Boardman & Co., 1950)
    George Woodcock, Anarchism (Harmondsworth: Penguin, 1963)
  14. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Bumping this thread mainly though because I was talking to a friend about Bromley and Kropotkin came up, and he went away and looked up some local council records on some kind of poll or other it showed that Kropotkin had a servant! :D ...if i understand correctly, resident at that house in Bromley!
  15. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    probably the 1901 census - getting much out of it online requires a subscription to something (many libraries have this though)
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  16. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    I'll ask him next time for the details - i forgot about that bit of it
  17. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    The SE London blogger 'running past' also has a page on the Bromley connection and mentions 'a young Belgian servant'
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  18. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Sure I read that he visited the Whiteway Colony near Stroud, an experiment in communal living set up by members of a Croydon church along anarchist lines.
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  19. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    That seems to confirm the census as the source...
    I was going to bump the Would You Pay For A Cleaner thread but it's been locked ;-)
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  20. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Rosa Luxemburg had multiple servants who she didn't treat very well.

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