check out this live gig from 71 - i fucking love it...
http://sound.modelfruit.com/sets/kraftwerk-bremen_de-25.06.71.zip
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Agreed, I saw them about 85 and expected them to be cold, etc, but the music was powerful, emotional and before techno, very danceable.
The krautrock prog was excellent and put the music in context, etc, but agreed much too short, just focussing on Popul Vuh's work for Werner Herzog could have filled one hour, shame
off to listen to Affenstunde....not their best though
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
nonsense, there is loads of footage of umpteen bands available. I've got a six part german doc downloaded somewhere, 90 mins each episode, iirr. The bits I've seen were cracking, tho, my german is nothing like up to good enough to watch the whole thing just for the clips.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
What was it called? Any links? My receptive German is still pretty good.
dlx1
Well-Known Member
Thanks. What is the name of 1st tune with flute (filename K2)
only seen 2x late in life Tribe Gathering & Brixton Academy 94
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Kraut und Rüben: Neue Töne braucht das Land
They're all up on karagarga, along with about 12 gig of other krautrock vids!
http://karagarga.net/browse.php?page=0&search=krautrock&search_type=torrent
ska invita
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Just watched - what a great show - lots of music to discover out of this...
First on the list is Harmonia, only hard a snatch but sounded great - but and also that Kraftwerk when the they still played instruments sounded spot on. Anyone know what the early pre-electronic Kraftwerk album/s are called? Or the best Harmonia album for that matter!
First on the list is Harmonia, only hard a snatch but sounded great - but and also that Kraftwerk when the they still played instruments sounded spot on. Anyone know what the early pre-electronic Kraftwerk album/s are called? Or the best Harmonia album for that matter!
ska invita
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been reading up - to answer my own question - early kraftwerk albums are Kraftwerk - 1970
Kraftwerk 2 - 1972
Ralf und Florian - 1973
..also did you know kraftwerk translates to "power station"!?
Harmonia discog is
1974 Musik Von Harmonia (studio album)
1975 Deluxe (studio album)
1997 Tracks and Traces (studio album)
2007 Live 1974 (live album)
...anyone heard any of these?
You might also look out for "Tone Float" by pre-Kraftwerk band Organisation.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
the first two kraftwerk and the first two Harmonia are both superb, not heard t'others
ska invita
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Had a thought today following this - in the show a lot of the artists make out how they were the post-Nazi generation, and what with Germany having its Year Zero moment they wanted to start afresh without any of the baggage of their most recent ancestors.
The funny thing is that they then went about a form of ethnic cleansing in their music - wiping out all blues/rock n roll influence (afro-american), plus any trace of their own 'native' folk rhythms (with jewish and gypsy roots), and were left with a kind of pure germanic sound!
The funny thing is that they then went about a form of ethnic cleansing in their music - wiping out all blues/rock n roll influence (afro-american), plus any trace of their own 'native' folk rhythms (with jewish and gypsy roots), and were left with a kind of pure germanic sound!
skyscraper101
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I was disappointed there was no mention of David Hasselhoff.
ska invita
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just listening to this now and its perfection
cant believe id never heard of this - never even heard it mentionedI really enjoyed the program and have been watching lots of Krautrock clips on You Tube since Friday, especially Neu! Most of the clips used on the show seem to be on there, including the early Kraftwerk one. Not sure if he fits in to Krautrock, but there's a lot of Conrad Schnitzler stuff on there which is amazing. Very ambient-y, and a big influence on Mixmaster Morris.
musicians & documentary makers talk an awful lot of shite to find a peg to hang their spiel on... there's plenty of blues, rock & soul/funk influence to be heard in much krautrock, as well as plenty of european classical & folk influences.
sleaterkinney
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Great doc.
ska invita
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Dont get me wrong, im not calling them crypto-nazis, but i do think they were looking for their own identity, and this was fundamentally an inward journey in which they hoped to re-imagine their homeland. The point wasn't made as much by the doc makers as by several of the interviewed artists themselves - their comments seemed sincere, not just muso-waffle. I'm not even criticising them for it, i just thought it was a vaguely interesting observation.
The comparison is clear when made with British music which in the postwar years was always looking for influences from afar, and showed an internationalism and cosmopolitanism that has made the last 40 years of British music so groundbreaking, leaving scores of genres in its wake. Without a doubt Britain's post-imperial history has a big influence in this respect, but it still takes a certain outward outlook to pull off.
I dont mean to contradict you, and to be totally honest Ive only really heard any of these bands since last Friday or whenever it was, so Im definitely no expert, but from what I can tell, and as much as any generalisation is true, it seems pretty clear cut that they were following a musical direction moving as far away from "blues, rock & soul/funk & folk influences" as possible - though there is a lot of (modern) european classical influence, and I did notice a lot of the people involved had had classical training, even though they ended up playing their cellos with cheese graters
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"Musik von Harmonia" is great. Some seriously beautiful tuneage, "Live, 1974" is also great. I'm not a fan of "Tracks and Traces".
The early Kraftwerk stuff is a good listen. Very "interesting".
i'm not suggesting that wasn't what they were aiming to do - just that they didn't generally succeed. some of the more freeform stuff perhaps did, but kraftwerk owe a debt to funkadelic and the like (also vice versa, tbf), and neu!, the more upbeat can stuff and whatnot are all pretty funky in places... hell, can's vitamin c lifted it's bassline directly from a stax release (check out '24 carat black')
I've had both of those records for about twenty years, and until now, had never spotted the distinct similarity!
However... -as far as I know, Vitamin C was actually released before 24 Carat Black Theme...
i was trying to work out which came first, and i was sure it was 24 carat black... either way, it shows there was plenty of traffic (both ways perhaps) between funk & kraut...I've had both of those records for about twenty years, and until now, had never spotted the distinct similarity!
However... -as far as I know, Vitamin C was actually released before 24 Carat Black Theme...
I would've thought it too, but Can's album definitely got released first.
Then again, maybe 24 Carat Black Theme was released as a single before that, and Can heard it?... Or maybe they saw 24 Carat Black play it live, and decided to rush record/release Vitamin C...?
It's kind of crazy* to think that a Stax band were listening to Can though, isn't it! Intriguing...
*Crazy in a very very cool way, of course.
Yep.
Jaki = the funky drummer.
was just flicking through german online newspapers, and found this. http://blog.zeit.de/tontraeger/2009/12/18/krautrock-masters-echoes_4286
Mentioned this band
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agitation_Free
- Agitation Free - Ala Tul
- Agitation Free - Khan El Khalili
- Agitation Free - Pulse
- Agitation Free - Malesch / Rücksturz
Mentioned this band
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agitation_Free
- Agitation Free - Ala Tul
- Agitation Free - Khan El Khalili
- Agitation Free - Pulse
- Agitation Free - Malesch / Rücksturz
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Can -
"Musik von Harmonia" is great. Some seriously beautiful tuneage, "Live, 1974" is also great. I'm not a fan of "Tracks and Traces".
The early Kraftwerk stuff is a good listen. Very "interesting".
Agree with the above.
Also check out the pre-Kraftwerk band Organisation - they did a weird and wonderful album - Tone Float.
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