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Krautrock / Kosmische Musik

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by Knotted, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Orang Utan , I predict that you'll like this with high probability.
     
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  2. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    I've been catching up on all the later "world music" stages of Embryo. Some of it is absolutely cracking. Take this Arabic something for example:

    Or this:
     
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  3. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Fucking hell, how good is Ashra's New Age Of Earth?
     
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  4. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    wonderful. 'Sunrain' is probably my favourite kraut song of the moment.
     
  5. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

  6. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
     
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  7. Cpatain Rbubish

    Cpatain Rbubish Only available on conscription

    Pearl Jam mix...

    Ballards not boomshankas iykwim?

    E2A Oops, wrong thread :rolleyes:
     
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  8. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    Status Quo are legends of InselAffeRock.
     
  9. Cpatain Rbubish

    Cpatain Rbubish Only available on conscription

    As an act of penance I've listened to a bit of Tangerine Dream...
     
  10. maya

    maya timewasting fool (in every universe)

    Was going to recommend the new book on krautrock ("Future Days" by David Stubbs), but see now that Dillinger4 beat me to it!
     
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  11. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    this is fucking incredible
     
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  12. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    yes yes. I listen to it daily.
     
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  13. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Listening to it for the first time tonight. Blowing my mind.
     
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  14. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    I don't even
     
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  15. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    Have you all heard that cavern of anti-matter album from last year? Tim gane from stereolab doing some proper motorik chug. Its lovely.
     
  16. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Will have to check that out.
    I'm reading David Stubbs' Future Days book on Krautrock, so have been listening along as it were. Faust is next up, after Kraftwerk, Can and Amon Duul II. It's been ace.
     
  17. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    ....
     
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  18. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Just stopping by to say that Silberbart (not Siberbart) were a superb power trio. It's tempting to compare them with Guru Guru, but that's right. Relatively standard heavy rock with dabs of intense noise and propensity for cracking grooves.
     
  19. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    In general that Stapleton list gets it right although there are a few odd omissions.
     
  20. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Alright my top 100. This isn't a top 100 recommendations or top 100 that I think are best, I've missed out Frumpy, Wallenstein, Gila, Thirsty Moon, Out of Focus, Kraan, Jane, Grobshnitt, La Dusseldorf and several other fairly big name bands which probably ought to be included but have never really grabbed me. I've included a few very obscure bands but heavily included some of my favourite bands (notably Can and Embryo), I can't hand on heart say that Can's Future Days is inferior to obscure album x,y and z even though I would like to include such albums, so there's less variety than I would prefer. Such is the price of clamping down on tokenism. So it's a fairly accurate list of personal favourites. And it's a work in progress, I'm sure I have yet to hear all of my top 100.

    The selection process felt brutal, in reality there's about 200-250 great krautrock albums. The final cut involved taking two Cluster albums and a Birth Control album off the list which felt like cutting off three of my fingers.

    If there's a few less well known ones that I would highlight it would be Between's And The Waters Opened, Dzyan's Electric Silence, Necronomicon's Tips Zum Selbstmord, Denis's Hypothalamus, Sand's Golem, Walter Wegmüller's Tarot, the Cozmic Corridors' self titled album, Witthüser & Westrupp's Trips und Träume and Cornucopia's Full Horn.

    Agitation Free - Malesch 1972
    Agitation Free - 2nd 1973
    Agitation Free - Last 1974
    Alcatraz - Vampire State Building 1971
    Amon Düül - Psychedaelic Underground 1969
    Amon Düül - Collapse 1969
    Amon Düül - Paradieswärts Düül 1970
    Amon Düül II - Phallus Dei 1969
    Amon Düül II - Yeti 1970
    Annexus Quam - Osmose 1970
    Annexus Quam - Beziehungen 1972
    Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel 1971
    Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen 1972
    Ash Ra Tempel & Timothy Leary - Seven Up 1973
    Association PC - Sun Rotation 1972
    Between - Einstieg 1971
    Between - And the Waters Opened 1973
    Brainticket - Cottonwood Hill 1970
    Brave New World - Impressions on Reading Aldous Huxley 1972
    Can - Monster Movies 1969
    Can - Soundtracks 1970
    Can - Tago Mago 1971
    Can - Ege Bamyasi 1972
    Can - Future Days 1973
    Can - Unlimited Edition 1976
    Can - Delay 1968 1981
    Can - Lost Tapes 2012
    Cluster - Cluster '71 1971
    Cluster - Cluster II 1972
    Code III - Planet of Man 1974
    Cornucopia - Full Horn 1973
    The Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket 1974
    Cozmic Corridors - Cozmic Corridors 1972
    Dennis - Hyperthalamus 1975
    Deuter - D 1971
    Dzyan - Time Machine 1973
    Dzyan - Electric Silence 1974
    Eiliff - Eiliff 1971
    Embryo - Opal 1970
    Embryo - Embryo's Rache 1971
    Embryo - Father, Son and Holy Ghosts 1972
    Embryo - Steig Aus 1973
    Embryo - Rock Session 1973
    Embryo - Apo-Calypso 1977
    Embryo - Embryo's Reise 1979
    Emtidi - Saat 1972
    Faust - Faust 1971
    Faust - So Far 1972
    Faust - The Faust Tapes 1973
    Faust - Faust IV 1974
    Floh de Cologne - Fleissbandbaby Beat-Show 1970
    Floh de Cologne - Rockopter Profitgeier 1971
    Floh de Cologne - Lucky Streik 1972
    Floh de Cologne - Geyer-Symphonie 1974
    Gomorrha - Trauma 1971
    Gomorrha - Turned to see whose voice it was 1972
    Guru Guru - UFO 1970
    Guru Guru - Hinten 1971
    Guru Guru - Kanguru 1972
    Harmonia - Musik Von Harmonia 1974
    Ibliss - Supernova 1972
    I.D. Company - Hör Zu Black Label 1970
    Kaputter Hamster - Kaputter Hamster 1974
    Kluster - Klopfzeichen 1971
    Kluster - Zwei-Osterei 1971
    Kollektiv - Kollektiv 1973
    Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk 1970
    Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk 2 1972
    Kraftwerk - Radio-Aktivität 1975
    Missus Beastly - SWF-Session 1974
    Moebius, Plank, Neumeier - Zero Set 1983
    Necronomicon - Tips Zum Selbstmord 1972
    Neu! - Neu! 1972
    Neu! - Neu! 2 1973
    Niagara - Sub 1972
    Nosferatu - Nosferatu 1970
    Organisation - Tone Float 1969
    Popul Vuh - Affenstunde 1970
    Popul Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos 1971
    Popul Vuh - Hosiaana Mantra 1972
    A.R. & Machines - Die grüne Reise - The Green Journey 1971
    A.R. & Machines - Echo 1972
    A.R. & Machines - AR3 1973
    A.R. & Machines - AR4 1973
    Sand - Golem 1974
    Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht 1972
    Silberbart - Four Times Sound Razing 1971
    Konrad Schnitzler - Rot 1973
    Konrad Schnitzler - Blau 1974
    Spacebox - Spacebox 1981
    Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation 1970
    Tangerine Dream - Atem 1973
    Technical Space Composer's Crew - Canaxis 5 1969
    Thrice Mice - Thrice Mice 1971
    Tomorrow's Gift - Tomorrow's Gift 1970
    Walter Wegmüller - Tarot 1973
    Witthüser & Westrupp - Trips und Träume 1971
    Xhol Caravan - Electrip 1969
    Xhol - Motherfuckers GmbH & Co. KG 1972
    Yatha Sidra - A Meditation Mass 1974

    Edit: Missed Klaus Schulze's Irrlicht off the first time. Added it and dropped Os Mundi's 43 Minuten.
     
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  21. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    I'm quite keen on a couple of Holger's solo albums, especially 'On the Way to the Peak of Normal' ... .does that count as Krautrock though?
     
  22. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Sure, great stuff too. I included Canaxis 5 in my list btw.
     
  23. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    I have to admit I was a bit weirded out by Canaxis 5. ( ... and I say this as an unashamed Residents fan)
     
  24. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    One question I'd really like to ask Holger though, would be whether that was an un-credited appearance by the the Clangers on OtWtPoN?
     
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  25. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Recommended listening:



     
  26. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Here's the 43 albums that appear on my list, Stapleton's list and Audion magazine's list. We have some real agreement on Guru Guru (first three albums and only the first three albums) and on A.R. & Machines (all eminently worthy of the top 100). Stapleton and the Freemans had a perfect disagreement on Floh de Cologne so they're out (!!) Anyway good to see Cornucopia, Sand, Brave New World and Dzyan in there. This is a list where there is consensus. In theory you can't go wrong with it.

    **Agitation Free - Malesch
    **Amon Duul - Psychedlic Underground
    **Amon Duul - Collapsing
    **Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
    **Amon Duul II - Yeti
    **Annexus Quam - Osmose
    **Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
    **Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
    **Cornucopia - Full Horn
    **Can - Tago Mago
    **Can - Future Days
    **Canaxis 5 - Canaxis 5 (TSCC)
    **Cluster - Cluster
    **Cluster - Cluster II
    **Sand - Golem
    **Neu - Neu
    **Ibliss - Supernova
    **Faust - Faust
    **Faust - So Far
    **Faust - Tapes
    **Kollectiv - Kollektiv
    **Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk
    **Kraftwerk - II
    **Guru Guru - UFO
    **Guru Guru - Hinten
    **Guru Guru - Kanguru
    **Tangerine Dream - Atem
    **Witthauser and Westropp - Trips and Traum
    **Yatha Sidra - A Meditatory Mass
    **Xhol Caravan - Electrip
    **Xhol - Motherfuckers GMBH & Co
    **Embryo - Rache
    **Embryo - Steig Aus
    **Dzyan - Electric Silence
    **Brave New World - Impressions On Reading Aldous Huxley
    **Achim Reichel - Die Grosse Reise
    **Achim Reichel - Echo
    **Achim Reichel - AR3
    **Achim Reichel - AR4
    **Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
    **Gomorrha - I Turned To See Whose Voice It Was
    **Organisation - Tone Float
    **Popol Vuh - In Den Garten Pharoas
     
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  27. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Cross referencing with Julian Cope's top 50. We're left with an elite 17. Not a bad beginners list.

    Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
    Amon Duul II - Yeti
    Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
    Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
    Can - Tago Mago
    Cluster - Cluster II
    Neu - Neu
    Faust - Faust
    Faust - So Far
    Faust - Tapes
    Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk
    Kraftwerk - II
    Guru Guru - UFO
    Tangerine Dream - Atem
    Witthauser and Westropp - Trips and Traum
    Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
    Popol Vuh - In Den Garten Pharoas
     
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  28. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Should say I went to see Embryo at the Café Oto weekend before last and they thoroughly confounded my expectations and I know a couple dozen of their albums. Christian Burchard wasn't there (I don't know if this was a temporary absence) and his daughter Marja seemed to be running the show. Jazz-rock-funk-Arabic-Afghan-etc.etc. fusion, but not delving deeply into various ethnic musics which was their speciality for a couple of decades. Lots of improvisation and vocal weirdness. Marja's amazing on vibes and marimba. The band is 48 years old but it felt like I'd seen an up and coming band. Really fresh and alive. Great rhythm section.
     
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  29. Casual Observer

    Casual Observer Well-Known Member

    If you're looking for a great 'what on earth is going on here' album then 1973's Outside The Dream Syndicate from Tony Conrad & Faust could be up your street. Faust provide minimalist bass and drum backing as Conrad plays two violins on the half hour tracks. Therapeutic to me but maybe an acquired taste to others. Worth putting on if you have people in your home you want to get rid of.

    Conrad may or may not have been the man who gave the Velvet Underground their name - he played with John Cale in the pre-VU Theatre Of Eternal Music with La Monte Young and others. He sadly died last year. A documentary on him due imminently.
     
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