Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by Knotted, Jul 5, 2012.
Orang Utan , I predict that you'll like this with high probability.
I've been catching up on all the later "world music" stages of Embryo. Some of it is absolutely cracking. Take this Arabic something for example:
Fucking hell, how good is Ashra's New Age Of Earth?
wonderful. 'Sunrain' is probably my favourite kraut song of the moment.
Pearl Jam mix...
Ballards not boomshankas iykwim?
E2A Oops, wrong thread
Status Quo are legends of InselAffeRock.
As an act of penance I've listened to a bit of Tangerine Dream...
Was going to recommend the new book on krautrock ("Future Days" by David Stubbs), but see now that Dillinger4 beat me to it!
this is fucking incredible
yes yes. I listen to it daily.
Listening to it for the first time tonight. Blowing my mind.
I don't even
Have you all heard that cavern of anti-matter album from last year? Tim gane from stereolab doing some proper motorik chug. Its lovely.
Will have to check that out.
I'm reading David Stubbs' Future Days book on Krautrock, so have been listening along as it were. Faust is next up, after Kraftwerk, Can and Amon Duul II. It's been ace.
Just stopping by to say that Silberbart (not Siberbart) were a superb power trio. It's tempting to compare them with Guru Guru, but that's right. Relatively standard heavy rock with dabs of intense noise and propensity for cracking grooves.
In general that Stapleton list gets it right although there are a few odd omissions.
Alright my top 100. This isn't a top 100 recommendations or top 100 that I think are best, I've missed out Frumpy, Wallenstein, Gila, Thirsty Moon, Out of Focus, Kraan, Jane, Grobshnitt, La Dusseldorf and several other fairly big name bands which probably ought to be included but have never really grabbed me. I've included a few very obscure bands but heavily included some of my favourite bands (notably Can and Embryo), I can't hand on heart say that Can's Future Days is inferior to obscure album x,y and z even though I would like to include such albums, so there's less variety than I would prefer. Such is the price of clamping down on tokenism. So it's a fairly accurate list of personal favourites. And it's a work in progress, I'm sure I have yet to hear all of my top 100.
The selection process felt brutal, in reality there's about 200-250 great krautrock albums. The final cut involved taking two Cluster albums and a Birth Control album off the list which felt like cutting off three of my fingers.
If there's a few less well known ones that I would highlight it would be Between's And The Waters Opened, Dzyan's Electric Silence, Necronomicon's Tips Zum Selbstmord, Denis's Hypothalamus, Sand's Golem, Walter Wegmüller's Tarot, the Cozmic Corridors' self titled album, Witthüser & Westrupp's Trips und Träume and Cornucopia's Full Horn.
Agitation Free - Malesch 1972
Agitation Free - 2nd 1973
Agitation Free - Last 1974
Alcatraz - Vampire State Building 1971
Amon Düül - Psychedaelic Underground 1969
Amon Düül - Collapse 1969
Amon Düül - Paradieswärts Düül 1970
Amon Düül II - Phallus Dei 1969
Amon Düül II - Yeti 1970
Annexus Quam - Osmose 1970
Annexus Quam - Beziehungen 1972
Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel 1971
Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen 1972
Ash Ra Tempel & Timothy Leary - Seven Up 1973
Association PC - Sun Rotation 1972
Between - Einstieg 1971
Between - And the Waters Opened 1973
Brainticket - Cottonwood Hill 1970
Brave New World - Impressions on Reading Aldous Huxley 1972
Can - Monster Movies 1969
Can - Soundtracks 1970
Can - Tago Mago 1971
Can - Ege Bamyasi 1972
Can - Future Days 1973
Can - Unlimited Edition 1976
Can - Delay 1968 1981
Can - Lost Tapes 2012
Cluster - Cluster '71 1971
Cluster - Cluster II 1972
Code III - Planet of Man 1974
Cornucopia - Full Horn 1973
The Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket 1974
Cozmic Corridors - Cozmic Corridors 1972
Dennis - Hyperthalamus 1975
Deuter - D 1971
Dzyan - Time Machine 1973
Dzyan - Electric Silence 1974
Eiliff - Eiliff 1971
Embryo - Opal 1970
Embryo - Embryo's Rache 1971
Embryo - Father, Son and Holy Ghosts 1972
Embryo - Steig Aus 1973
Embryo - Rock Session 1973
Embryo - Apo-Calypso 1977
Embryo - Embryo's Reise 1979
Emtidi - Saat 1972
Faust - Faust 1971
Faust - So Far 1972
Faust - The Faust Tapes 1973
Faust - Faust IV 1974
Floh de Cologne - Fleissbandbaby Beat-Show 1970
Floh de Cologne - Rockopter Profitgeier 1971
Floh de Cologne - Lucky Streik 1972
Floh de Cologne - Geyer-Symphonie 1974
Gomorrha - Trauma 1971
Gomorrha - Turned to see whose voice it was 1972
Guru Guru - UFO 1970
Guru Guru - Hinten 1971
Guru Guru - Kanguru 1972
Harmonia - Musik Von Harmonia 1974
Ibliss - Supernova 1972
I.D. Company - Hör Zu Black Label 1970
Kaputter Hamster - Kaputter Hamster 1974
Kluster - Klopfzeichen 1971
Kluster - Zwei-Osterei 1971
Kollektiv - Kollektiv 1973
Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk 1970
Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk 2 1972
Kraftwerk - Radio-Aktivität 1975
Missus Beastly - SWF-Session 1974
Moebius, Plank, Neumeier - Zero Set 1983
Necronomicon - Tips Zum Selbstmord 1972
Neu! - Neu! 1972
Neu! - Neu! 2 1973
Niagara - Sub 1972
Nosferatu - Nosferatu 1970
Organisation - Tone Float 1969
Popul Vuh - Affenstunde 1970
Popul Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos 1971
Popul Vuh - Hosiaana Mantra 1972
A.R. & Machines - Die grüne Reise - The Green Journey 1971
A.R. & Machines - Echo 1972
A.R. & Machines - AR3 1973
A.R. & Machines - AR4 1973
Sand - Golem 1974
Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht 1972
Silberbart - Four Times Sound Razing 1971
Konrad Schnitzler - Rot 1973
Konrad Schnitzler - Blau 1974
Spacebox - Spacebox 1981
Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation 1970
Tangerine Dream - Atem 1973
Technical Space Composer's Crew - Canaxis 5 1969
Thrice Mice - Thrice Mice 1971
Tomorrow's Gift - Tomorrow's Gift 1970
Walter Wegmüller - Tarot 1973
Witthüser & Westrupp - Trips und Träume 1971
Xhol Caravan - Electrip 1969
Xhol - Motherfuckers GmbH & Co. KG 1972
Yatha Sidra - A Meditation Mass 1974
Edit: Missed Klaus Schulze's Irrlicht off the first time. Added it and dropped Os Mundi's 43 Minuten.
I'm quite keen on a couple of Holger's solo albums, especially 'On the Way to the Peak of Normal' ... .does that count as Krautrock though?
Sure, great stuff too. I included Canaxis 5 in my list btw.
I have to admit I was a bit weirded out by Canaxis 5. ( ... and I say this as an unashamed Residents fan)
One question I'd really like to ask Holger though, would be whether that was an un-credited appearance by the the Clangers on OtWtPoN?
Spoiler: Necronomicon - Requiem Der Natur
Spoiler: Witthüser & Westrupp - Karlchen
Spoiler: Cozmic Corridors - The Summit
Spoiler: Brave New World - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon... Ford
Here's the 43 albums that appear on my list, Stapleton's list and Audion magazine's list. We have some real agreement on Guru Guru (first three albums and only the first three albums) and on A.R. & Machines (all eminently worthy of the top 100). Stapleton and the Freemans had a perfect disagreement on Floh de Cologne so they're out (!!) Anyway good to see Cornucopia, Sand, Brave New World and Dzyan in there. This is a list where there is consensus. In theory you can't go wrong with it.
**Agitation Free - Malesch
**Amon Duul - Psychedlic Underground
**Amon Duul - Collapsing
**Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
**Amon Duul II - Yeti
**Annexus Quam - Osmose
**Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
**Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
**Cornucopia - Full Horn
**Can - Tago Mago
**Can - Future Days
**Canaxis 5 - Canaxis 5 (TSCC)
**Cluster - Cluster
**Cluster - Cluster II
**Sand - Golem
**Neu - Neu
**Ibliss - Supernova
**Faust - Faust
**Faust - So Far
**Faust - Tapes
**Kollectiv - Kollektiv
**Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk
**Kraftwerk - II
**Guru Guru - UFO
**Guru Guru - Hinten
**Guru Guru - Kanguru
**Tangerine Dream - Atem
**Witthauser and Westropp - Trips and Traum
**Yatha Sidra - A Meditatory Mass
**Xhol Caravan - Electrip
**Xhol - Motherfuckers GMBH & Co
**Embryo - Rache
**Embryo - Steig Aus
**Dzyan - Electric Silence
**Brave New World - Impressions On Reading Aldous Huxley
**Achim Reichel - Die Grosse Reise
**Achim Reichel - Echo
**Achim Reichel - AR3
**Achim Reichel - AR4
**Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
**Gomorrha - I Turned To See Whose Voice It Was
**Organisation - Tone Float
**Popol Vuh - In Den Garten Pharoas
Cross referencing with Julian Cope's top 50. We're left with an elite 17. Not a bad beginners list.
Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
Can - Tago Mago
Cluster - Cluster II
Neu - Neu
Faust - Faust
Faust - So Far
Faust - Tapes
Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk
Kraftwerk - II
Guru Guru - UFO
Tangerine Dream - Atem
Witthauser and Westropp - Trips and Traum
Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
Popol Vuh - In Den Garten Pharoas
Should say I went to see Embryo at the Café Oto weekend before last and they thoroughly confounded my expectations and I know a couple dozen of their albums. Christian Burchard wasn't there (I don't know if this was a temporary absence) and his daughter Marja seemed to be running the show. Jazz-rock-funk-Arabic-Afghan-etc.etc. fusion, but not delving deeply into various ethnic musics which was their speciality for a couple of decades. Lots of improvisation and vocal weirdness. Marja's amazing on vibes and marimba. The band is 48 years old but it felt like I'd seen an up and coming band. Really fresh and alive. Great rhythm section.
If you're looking for a great 'what on earth is going on here' album then 1973's Outside The Dream Syndicate from Tony Conrad & Faust could be up your street. Faust provide minimalist bass and drum backing as Conrad plays two violins on the half hour tracks. Therapeutic to me but maybe an acquired taste to others. Worth putting on if you have people in your home you want to get rid of.
Conrad may or may not have been the man who gave the Velvet Underground their name - he played with John Cale in the pre-VU Theatre Of Eternal Music with La Monte Young and others. He sadly died last year. A documentary on him due imminently.
The German Oak LP mentioned a few years ago upthread was released in a remastered and expanded edition towards the end of last year, this time with the cooperation of main man Wolfgang Czaika. The tape flutter of the last reissue (2004?) has gone. Also gone are the Hitler speech segments and provocative song titles which were both added by their lunatic manager without the band's knowledge. The four tracks of the original album are otherwise unchanged on the first CD of this 3CD set. The second CD has extended versions of two tracks from the first CD. The third CD is less interesting, containing plodding bluesy jams - not really my cup of tea. It's the eerie basement darkness of the first two CDs that need to be heard. Good interview with Wolfgang in the liner notes too. Well worth investigating.
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