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Krautrock / Kosmische Musik

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by Knotted, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. lefteri

    lefteri Well-Known Member

    best for me is moebius & plank's 'zero set' - kosmic minimalism with the genius of mani neumaier on drums, moebius on the electronics and plank on the board with one vocal track by the sudanese vocalist deuka:

     
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  2. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    Great thread...... two from me

    Ash Ra Tempel


    and of course this.........

     
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  3. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Thrice Mice:
     
  4. Silva

    Silva This went well.

    I think early Kraftwerk had a charm the full electronic bogaloo missed. There's something in seeing "the music of the future" being played with traditional instruments (and flutes) instead of just synthetizers.

    Also, Dinger is massively underrated. The Soul Jazz compilation is brilliant, but the liner notes kind of make light of his contributions.


    Right now, Geoff Barrow has Beak>, which might be very derivative from Can and Neu!, but as a modern take on Krautrock, they're pretty solid.
     
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  5. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    krautrock is pretty much all I have been listening to recently
     
  6. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    did you hear that incredible kraftwerk concert from the early 70s that did the rounds a couple of months ago?
     
  7. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    No but I will! It's on this thread I think
     
  8. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    I think it's on one of the other krautrock threads. :D

    the show it was on led me to this (there's loads of gread Can footage from the 70s)

     
  9. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    absolutely. cant get enough of it. this is the soundtrack to inept bathroom painting this week:

    Jaki Leibezeit on drums.
     
  10. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    someone on here described the 1st LP as having 'chugging flutes' on it which is spot on! also its got Neu on it:

    its about the only 1 i repeatedly listen to.
     
  11. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Did I mention Organisation before? Pre-Kraftwerk with Ralf and Florian:
     
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  12. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    More flute action with Alcatraz:
     
  13. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    in germany they had flutes and Kraftwerk whilst we had this hairy fuckspangle;
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    also, having slightly awkward convos with a german comrade and discussing 'kraut rock' which he calls simply 'rock.' also the name kosmiche musik doesnt fit Neu's Hero somehow.
     
  14. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    The term "krautrock" is very Basil Fawltyish. I don't think any of the bands embraced it. That includes Faust whose track of that name was supposed to be ironic. Terrible name for a scene. I suppose we should just be grateful nobody coined the term frogrock.
     
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  15. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    yeah and like many other vaguely connected bands they didnt see themselves as homogenised as the british press and importers saw them. i mean Can, Kraftwerk and Amon Duul? how different?
     
  16. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    That reminds me have you got round to listening to Amon Duul (not Amon Duul 2)? The recordings don't do them justice and you may not like it as it is very primitive but it's the type of thing that would have been a splendid racket live. Lots of drums/percussion and guitars bashing it out.
     
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  17. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Gomorrha anyone?
    Heavy and somewhat cheesy and somewhat proggy but weird and noisy. Confused and confusing and not the sort of thing we'll ever see again. Both of it's time and unlike anything else of its time. I love it and hate it all at once. Really love how this track fades out, though. Best fade out ever.
     
  18. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Jazz-rock with Eiliff
    This one's very Soft Machine. As good as, though.
     
  19. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Love this song. Kalte Wut (Cold Fury) by Floh de Cologne

    A political (anarchist) rock-cabaret band with a kind of uncomplicated directness and a sense of what makes a good tune. One of the earlier "krautrock" bands and I think one of the best. Effortlessly interesting.
     
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  20. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    got to say not massive on amon dull. find em a bit hippyish. i like the anonymity of K-werk, the donnish aspirations of Neu/Harmonia/Cluster etc. love popol vuh tho. watched Aguirre the other day and forgot they did the music.
     
  21. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    I've been having a bit of a krautrock binge on Spotify but haven't got beyond Cluster/Roedelius yet. There's a lot of material! All brilliant so far though!
     
  22. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Actually I think there is strange dearth of KR on Spotify. No Ashra for instance. No Amon Duul 1. No Popul Vuh. Little Floh De Cologne. Lots of Embryo, though, which is all worth checking out.
     
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  23. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    I was just thinking to myself why it is that I like all of this scene (well nearly all, Nektar for instance don't interest me much), and the one uniting factor is there is no singer-songwriter type stuff and no frontmannery and posturing. Even the stuff that sounds dated is still refreshing for that reason.

    I think this why Amon Duul (not Amon Duul 2) were so important. They were something very rare but at the same time very common sensical. Get a bunch of mainly amateur musicians together give each one a small job and make a big and complex sound out of weight of sheer numbers and sheer enthusiasm and then throw in a bit of spontaneity. If local rock gigs were like that, you'd want to go. It'd be a big noisy experience like standing in the middle of a pipe band at a country fair or going to see a Taiko band. Except it'd be rock, and rock at its core is kinda exciting. Of course what they were doing is nothing original. A lot of traditional music works along similar lines. It's just something nobody seems to want to do in rock 'n' roll. It's all about being iconic, looking extravagant and singing the next anthem for the future generation and all that shit.

    Anyway enough ranting and more chuggy flute from Kollektiv:
     
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  24. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Embryo - Strasse nach Asien

    About the time the went off to India in the late 70's. Obviously all very hippy and world music, but they appropriate styles without mutilating them or attempting to maintain some sort of authenticity.

    A Place to Go
    A thick and tasty soup from their psychedelic rock era.
     
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  25. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Annexus Quam with a different, jazzier soup including a nice bit of brass.
     
  26. killer b

    killer b Ennui Rollins

    Steven Stapleton of nurse with wound fame has done a list of his 100 favourite kraut albums...

    KRAUTROCK 100
    Agitation Free - Malesch
    Thrice Mice - Thrice Mice
    Amon Duul - Psychedlic Underground
    Amon Duul - Collapsing
    Amon Duul - Paradieswarts Duul
    Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
    Amon Duul II - Yeti
    Amon Duul II - Tanz der Lemminge
    Annexus Quam - Osmose
    Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
    Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
    Ash Ra Tempel - Seven Up
    Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn
    Association PC - Sun Rotation
    Association PC - Erna Morena
    Cornucopia - Full Horn
    Can - Delay 68
    Can - Monster Movie
    Can - Tago Mago
    Can - Egebamyasi
    Can - Soundtracks
    Can - Future Days
    Can - Lost Tapes
    Canaxis 5 - Canaxis 5 (TSCC)
    Eroc - Zwei
    Cluster - Cluster
    Cluster - Cluster II
    Sand - Golem
    Os Mundi - 43 Minuten
    Neu - Neu
    Neu - Dei 2
    Ibliss - Supernova
    Hairy Chapter - Can't Get Enough
    Wolfgang Dauner - The Oimels
    Wolfgang Dauner - Ootput
    Wolfgang Dauner Group - Rischkas Soul
    Wolfgang Dauner's Et Cetera - Knirsch
    Wolfgang Dauner's Et Cetera - Et Cetera
    Roth, Ruhm and Weiner - 3 Berliner Dichter Workshop
    Faust - Faust
    Faust - So Far
    Faust - Tapes
    Faust - IV
    Nosferatu - Nosferatu
    Gila - Free Electric Sound
    Exmagma - 3
    Necronomicon - Necronomicon
    Jane - Together
    Kraan - Live
    Kollectiv - Kollektiv
    Siberbart - 4 Times Soundrazing
    Niagara - Sub
    Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk
    Kraftwerk - II
    Kraftwerk - K7 (Radio Bremen)
    Grobschnitt - Ballermann
    Floh De Cologne - Fliesbandbabys Beat Show
    Floh De Cologne - Rockoper Profitgeier
    Floh De Cologne - Lucky Streik
    Nine Days Wonder - Nine Days Wonder
    Brainstorm - Smile A While
    Guru Guru - UFO
    Guru Guru - Hinten
    Guru Guru - Kanguru
    Thirsty Moon - Thirsty Moon
    Thirsty Moon - You'll Never Come Back
    Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri
    Tangerine Dream - Zeit
    Tangerine Dream - Atem
    Tomorrow's Gift - Goodbye Future
    Witthauser and Westropp - Trips and Traum
    Yatha Sidra - A Meditatory Mass
    Frumpy - 2
    Xhol Caravan - Electrip
    Xhol - Motherfuckers GMBH & Co
    Xhol - Motherfuckers Live
    Embryo - Opal
    Embryo - Father Son And Holy Ghost
    Embryo - Rache
    Embryo - Steig Aus
    Embryo - Surfin'
    Dzyan - Time Machine
    Dzyan - Electric Silence
    Missus Beastly - Bremen 74
    Brave New World - Impressions On Reading Aldous Huxley
    Achim Reichel - Die Grosse Reise
    Achim Reichel - Echo
    Achim Reichel - AR3
    Achim Reichel - AR4
    Passport - Doldinger
    Brain Ticket - Cottonwood Hill
    Brain Ticket - Psychonaut
    Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht
    Klaus Schulze - Blackdance
    Rolf And Joachim Kuhn - The Madrockers
    Gomorrha - I Turned To See Whose Voice It Was
    Gomorrha - Trauma
    Barney Wilen And His Amazing Rockband - Dear Prof Leary
    Organisation - Tone Float
    Popol Vuh - In Den Garten Pharoas
     
  27. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    Quite close to what I would put. A few on that list I don't know. Association PC, Exmagma, Siberbart, Missus Beastly, Barney Wilen And His Amazing Rockband. To be investigated. Weirdly that's precisely the five bands who sound as if he just made up the names for a joke. Hmmm.
     
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  28. ouchmonkey

    ouchmonkey Singe Gainsbourg

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    exmagma :D
     
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  29. Knotted

    Knotted Sweet when you stir it up

    According to wikipedia, Thomas Balluff of Exmagma plays flute amongst other things. Let's hope it chuggy.
    Exmagma:
    [Double neck guitar warning.]
    Nice enough. I'll search out more.
     
  30. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Getting deep into Roedelius
    Wenn der Südwind weht is just lovely.
     

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