Not quite right in my experience as a chef.
Knives
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Not quite right in my experience as a chef.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Have you ever used a decent set of poncey chef's knives??
Cos there's a marked difference between them and cheap knives!
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Indeed. I used to think that, but also that chef's always seemed to have much better knife skills than me - somehow I never connected the two
My 'fancy' knife still isn't that fancy, but it really is amazing how much difference a good solid, sharp knife can make over a shitty bendy one. Cutting carrots is now fun!
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Wow what a bump....5 months since I started the thread. Turns out is quite appropriate as I was going to start a new thread anyway.
I never got round to buying any knives, asperations sored to high, got confused and found other things to blow my money on.
However Santa did bring me some rather cool presents a Global 13cm Cooks Knife and Wusthof 3" Paring Knife. Also got a cheap knife shapener, which has given a new lease of life to my cheap supermarket blades. I'm not putting it any where near my new ones though!
How do people sharpen their knives? I've tried playing with wetstones in the past, but always struggle to get the angle right.
I never got round to buying any knives, asperations sored to high, got confused and found other things to blow my money on.
However Santa did bring me some rather cool presents a Global 13cm Cooks Knife and Wusthof 3" Paring Knife. Also got a cheap knife shapener, which has given a new lease of life to my cheap supermarket blades. I'm not putting it any where near my new ones though!
How do people sharpen their knives? I've tried playing with wetstones in the past, but always struggle to get the angle right.
Cid
Proper break this time
You need to learn how to use a whetstone really, or make/buy a jig that holds the knife at the right angle. Steels are only good for knives that are already sharp (to be precise they are for honing a blade, stones are for sharpening). A good steel is invaluable though.
Wetstones for Globals for me. The diamond and better, but even more fragile, ceramic steels are even more prohibitively expensive.
In terms of the angle for sharpening, it's a consistent non-grating noise that usually tells you that you're about right. Aim for steady, slowish sweeping motions that feel controlled and smooth. You'll get the hang surprisingly quickly. I've used those things - jigs or guiderails - but they often feel a little shallow if anything, and often feel like they're scratching the knives when put on.
In terms of the angle for sharpening, it's a consistent non-grating noise that usually tells you that you're about right. Aim for steady, slowish sweeping motions that feel controlled and smooth. You'll get the hang surprisingly quickly. I've used those things - jigs or guiderails - but they often feel a little shallow if anything, and often feel like they're scratching the knives when put on.
Kanda
Diving wanker
My Globals came with one of these: http://www.cooksknivesshop.co.uk/Ac...er_Sharpener_Large_(Grey_and_Black)/1038/1884
..as well as the ceramic thingie in the block.
..as well as the ceramic thingie in the block.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
I bought this set just before Xmas:
http://www.kitchenknivesdirect.co.uk/acatalog/global_knives_sets.html
..and Moonpig kept putting them in the dishwasher
Stupidly expensive though!
I must admit that I wouldn't trust that thing, although it looks temptingly convenient. How does it compare to the ceramic steel in sharpening things?
That's a fuck of a block of knives btw. I thought I was excessive with my 9-slot bastard assembled over time, but you've gone and outponced me to a considerable degree with that purchase
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
How important is the actualy block you put them in? I know putting them in the drawer is an absolute no-no but they currently reside in a very basic £5 wooden block from M&S (that came with a set of knifes too - seriously shit). Would it be worth investing in a better quality block? And does it matter that the knives are collected singularly, and don't 'fit' the block?
I know a lot of people say the magnetic strips are good, but I trust neither myself nor my housemate not to cause serious injury.
I know a lot of people say the magnetic strips are good, but I trust neither myself nor my housemate not to cause serious injury.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Yeah, that seems to be the general opinion.
To be honest they don't even go in the block at the moment as that's in public territory and I ain't letting my flatmate use my nice knives
They're currently in their individual packaging in my cupboard
To be honest they don't even go in the block at the moment as that's in public territory and I ain't letting my flatmate use my nice knives
They're currently in their individual packaging in my cupboard
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
DAMN YOU BADGERS!
I'm supposed to STOP SPENDING and am now £15 lighter. I have some atm that are not too bad, tbf, but for £15 I might as well, eh?
My ex can have whichever set is the worst.
Almost went for a cleaver too (I could really do with one), but they make me nervous.
I'm supposed to STOP SPENDING and am now £15 lighter. I have some atm that are not too bad, tbf, but for £15 I might as well, eh?
My ex can have whichever set is the worst.
Almost went for a cleaver too (I could really do with one), but they make me nervous.
subversplat
writer of wrongs
I bought those £15 knives too
Damn it, does Badgers work for the knife company or something?
Damn it, does Badgers work for the knife company or something?
Kanda
Diving wanker
It's really really good. You only need 8-10 swipes through and they're lethally sharp again, any pits (Moonpig & dishwasher
They were my house warming present to myself
Tempting. As much as I like the wetstones, it's a bit of a faff which discourages appropriately regular sharpening. Cheers - it's good to have a bit of honest feedback on something like that.
To be fair, that's a comprehensive set in one block. The 9-hole doesn't really have space for shorter, paring blades or a steel. And when the steel costs as much as that, you need as much protection as you do for blades
Decent discount wasn't it!!
£400 odd off
Hate to say it, but I've seen it at for at least £100 less elsewhere.
On the bright side, you did get that free sharpener...
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
DAMN YOU BADGERS!
I'm supposed to STOP SPENDING and am now £15 lighter. I have some atm that are not too bad, tbf, but for £15 I might as well, eh?
Me tooI bought those £15 knives too
Kanda
Diving wanker
Hate to say it, but I've seen it at for at least £100 less elsewhere.
On the bright side, you did get that free sharpener...
Bothered...
Prolly are cheaper now in Jan to be fair.
Camera I bought before Xmas is now £100 cheaper too
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Victorianox for one of fat pockets, Kitchen Devil for those with little money.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
I have a combination of really cheap knives and really expensive ones. I never use my Henckels 10" chef knife. It's more like a weapon than a kitchen tool.
I have a cheap Chinese cleaver that is the total bomb for large vegetables and chopping through small bones.
I have a cheap Chinese cleaver that is the total bomb for large vegetables and chopping through small bones.
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
Thirz a big Henckels 5 star in TK's at the moment. It's £35 (RRP abouy £60)
I had a Gourmet Twin from there for £10 (worth £35), it was great at first but no matter how carefully I sharpen it (with Henckel's Twin whetstone!) it fails to stay as razor sharp as it used to
I had a Gourmet Twin from there for £10 (worth £35), it was great at first but no matter how carefully I sharpen it (with Henckel's Twin whetstone!) it fails to stay as razor sharp as it used to
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
She said 'non-stick' pans, not 'decent' pans.I haven't bought a decent pan set yet
'decent non-stick pans' is an oxymoron
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
Thirz a big Henckels 5 star in TK's at the moment. It's £35 (RRP abouy £60)
I had a Gourmet Twin from there for £10 (worth £35), it was great at first but no matter how carefully I sharpen it (with Henckel's Twin whetstone!) it fails to stay as razor sharp as it used to
For some reason knives are one of those things that are always on sale or claiming to be discounted.
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