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there's some absolutely horrific testimonies of refugees out of north korea who end up in china etc with stories of having been sexually abused by both north Korean and Chinese border guards etc. those things don't get publicised. I really hate it when false news is made up because it makes the real stuff harder to take seriously
 
sim667 said:
It was more the brutality I was getting at..... Whats anti aircraft calibre, like 13-14 mil?
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something like this
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Pickman's model said:
i for one would rather be ripped to shreds by anti-aircraft cannon than given a lethal injection or the electrick chair.
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I'd rather none, but suspect electric chair is the most painful. However no one has been able to tell us what it's like to die in any of them, so it hardly matters really.
 
frogwoman said:
there's some absolutely horrific testimonies of refugees out of north korea who end up in china etc with stories of having been sexually abused by both north Korean and Chinese border guards etc. those things don't get publicised. I really hate it when false news is made up because it makes the real stuff harder to take seriously
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This is more fake 'DPRK is so crazy' crap. Apparently the source is someone inside the country who happened to speak to Radio Free Asia.
 
Just need someone to come along now and say with authority that it's a totalitarian state, but using a literal and inaccurate interpretation of a certain posh boy's Nineteen Eighty-Four that still lingers on from an outdated, liberal Cold Warrior ideological bias. One that insults the intelligence and denies the agency of people that actually live there.

HOW DARE YOU!!! YOU SUPPORT EVIL!!!
 
seventh bullet said:
Just need someone to come along now and say with authority that it's a totalitarian state, but using a literal and inaccurate interpretation of a certain posh boy's Nineteen Eighty-Four that still lingers on from an outdated, liberal Cold Warrior ideological bias. One that insults the intelligence and denies the agency of people that actually live there.
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Do the approximate 100,000 people in forced labour camps have agency too?
 
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If you want to you can read my older posts on this subject, here (old account), here, here, and here, then if you still feel that way inclined by all means ask me another loaded question. I'll answer in the appropriate fashion.

You also might want to know that I'd first need to get married before I can start beating my wife.
 
seventh bullet said:
If you want to you can read my older posts on this subject, here (old account), here, here, and here, then if you still feel that way inclined by all means ask me another loaded question. I'll answer in the appropriate fashion.

You also might want to know that I'd first need to get married before I can start beating my wife.
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It wasn't that kind of question at all.

(And yes, I've read your posts)
 
seventh bullet said:
It was.
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No it's not. It's a totalitarian state by any reasonable definition (or wants to be, they don't have complete control of markets and have had to tolerate that since the big famine) and a really shit place to live especially if you're at the bottom of the songbun system. I want to know if the agency that you think I am denying to North Korean people by describing it as a totalitarian state extends to the 100,000 people in forced labour camps, a massive proportion of whom are there under the three generations policy or were even born there. It's not the Cuba of the East it's a disgusting society.
 
Here we go. It was or you wouldn't have replied with the above. Where did I say you were denying anything? I was making a general comment. But anyway, how is a society defined as totalitarian? What is the criteria? Who set such?
 
seventh bullet said:
Here we go. It was or you wouldn't have replied with the above. Where did I say you were denying anything? I was making a general comment. But anyway, how is a society defined as totalitarian? What is the criteria? Who set such?
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It's a measure of the amount of control a state has over citizens' lives. No state can ever be 'totally total' but in the DKRP it's as close to total as it gets. The songbun system dictates your work and family life and the threat of punishment to three generations ensures the vast majority will conform. During a mass show of grief like Sun Jong Il's funeral does it really matter what percentage of the mourners are a) truly loyal b) 'brainwashed' by their education or c) pretending to cry in order to conform? And what does 'agency' mean when the vast majority are excluded from any political discourse. There is definitely a proportion of the population that is loyal and positive about juche but when you can see your whole family from grandparents to grandchildren stuck in a labour camp for open dissent what does it matter? The Kim's are a family of tyrants pure and simple.

I've attempted an answer to your question and put it in context. Now how about you answer mine?
 
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