Kilts. I need one. Cheaply.

Discussion in 'threads and dreads' started by chilango, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    How much is it to hire a full kit?
     
  2. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

    If they're going to get picky, choose a generic tartan like "Flower of Scotland" or "Auld Scotland". Or Celtic FC ;)
     
  3. Spymaster

    Spymaster Cockney Wanker

    Loads on ebay well under £200

    A lot of them seem to be army ones.
     
  4. gosub

    gosub ~#

  5. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    Suit worn with a tie in the appropriate ish tartan? Ime kilts are the exception rather than the rule at such events. As I said, not a massive fan so...
     
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  6. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    You might find you could negotiate a price for hiring three times?
     
  7. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    I think I'd then have to buy a suit, and hire a tux as well.

    Grrr :mad: (not you, at stupid dress codes).
     
  8. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

  9. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    :(
     
  10. gosub

    gosub ~#

    there are shed loads of DJ's in charity shops
     
  11. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    Years ago I used to attend monthly dinners and needed a dinner suit. Hiring became unaffordable. I bought a dinner suit. I've never worn it. Wasted money in the end.
     
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  12. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Corrected for you.

    Kilts are not exclusively Scottish.
     
  13. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

  14. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Does the dress code for both of these events actually specify that you must wear a kilt?
     
  15. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Talk to your friends about the benefits of living in sin.
     
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  16. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    That would be a very sore point for my relatives regarding my own very delayed (10+ years of sin and anguish for the mothers) wedding which aroused a lot of angst. best not.
     
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  17. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    No.

    I don't need it for either.

    The wedding I could wear a suit. I suppose. The Burns Night (which I suspect i will be expected to attend on an annual basis from now on) I could go in black tie. People would be "disappointed" though.

    I have neither a suit nor black tie stuff.

    I've managed to make excuses and get out fo the last few occasions where I need this getup. Time's up now though.

    However I do this, it's gonna be an outlay. I don't like these kinda events at the best of times. So wearing ill-fitting stuff would only make the occasions even less fun.

    I figured why not get something that would do for both (and future similar) and that I actually want? I've wanted a kilt for years.
     
  18. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    What about (and I say this very reluctantly) tux with tartan bow tie and cufflinks? I can get them in the tartan I want. Or would that be a major faux pas?
     
  19. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    There are also Rangers ones I believe.
     
  20. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    It's a bit unclear whether you are doing this unwillingly or not.

    My personal opinion is that at a formal event, folk should go in the formal wear they want to. That can be highland dress or a regular suit. The choice is not really related to how "Scottish" you are. I don't think anyone should be making you feel like you are letting them down by wearing something you don't particularly want to. In fact I hate this kind of attitude and always seems to come from people that have a weird need to demonstrate their "Scottishness" whatever that is. If you've got limited funds it would seem to me more sensible to invest in a suit that you like that you can wear to a wider range of events.

    Myself (born and raised in Scotland) I have various reservations about kilts and highland dress and what it signifies. But I do have a kilt etc that used to belong to my uncle and grandfather and in certain situations it feels right to wear it. It's me who decides when it's right to wear it though. If I didn't have stuff with a family history I doubt I'd go out and buy an outfit myself.

    I wouldn't do any kind of tartan tie or tartan bow tie stuff. That's a bit naff. And it won't in any case satisfy any kilt fundamentalists.

    Bear in mind that if you want/need to go in formal highland dress, it's not just a kilt you need. You'll need a sporran. You'll need a waistcoat and/or jacket, and a normal suit jacket will not look right; the cut is different. You'll need socks and shoes that work too. When you hire an outfit you don't just get a kilt, so comparing the cost of buying a kilt against the cost of hiring an outfit is not a fair comparison.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2017
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  21. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Having a kilt would be "willing". Having an enforced dress code? "unwilling".

    That make sense?

    I don't think a suit would be adequate for the black tie stuff. So - regardless - I need something else for these occasions. Tux or highland dress seem my options.

    That's my concern, I'd limit it so tie or cummerbund or pocket square. Not all three.

    I know :(

    More scope there though as there's more ex-hire etc. available. I've seen the full outfit for around £300, but I'd still need to get that down by about £100.
     
  22. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    I would caution against the cheap new ones on ebay, they'll be made of some thin artificial fabric that just sticks to your legs in a not very alluring static electricity way. Better a cheap suit than a bad kilt, especially if you're not used to wearing, you know, pleated skirts.
     
  23. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Buy a nice one and then finance it by hiring it out.
     
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  24. alan_

    alan_ Well-Known Member

    My son has one of the cheap kilts, about £30 which his gran bought him from a stall that stands in the shopping mall in Greenock. it is of course a very different item from a quality kilt, but at first glance it could pass as one and look the part for a wedding (especially if alcohol is consumed).
    Cruise ships now dock in Greenock and the stallholder sells dozens to American tourists.
     
  25. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Sort of yes.




    I'd not do any of the above in tartan. Tartan on anything other than a kilt just makes you look like an american tourist or maybe a tour guide.
     
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  26. alan_

    alan_ Well-Known Member

    Matching tie from same bloke only a fiver
     
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  27. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Lots of cheap utility kilts on eBay.
    Pluses:
    Not tartan. No Celtic ancestry inference.
    Reuse for goth events
    Popular on BDSM scene
    Great for doing DIY in - it's utility innit.
    They look great
     
  28. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Any thoughts on tartan trews with tux?

    Could assemble that more cheaply.
     
  29. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I have a copy of this book.

    [​IMG]

    Reading it reminds me why I am mostly not going to wear the kilt.

    The whole business easily descends into a nonsense of one-upmanship about who does or doesn't know the "rules" which are seemingly just made up by people who have nothing better to do with their time anyway. And it ends up having little to do with style or looking good.

    True highlanders value style and sophistication above formalised rules and snobbery. It's what's makes us better than everyone else.
     
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  30. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    I'm not sure about those strappy bits coiled around the ankles of the gentleman pictured on the front cover there. Have you got those shoes teuchter ?
     

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