Kill it cook it eat it

[madzone]

eg people eating bugs on help I'm a celebrity etc

I agree with you on that one - I hate it. Trouble is to bring the wider issues regarding meat production to the public it will be neccessary to make it more palatable for them by adding an element of 'entertainment'. I can't really think of a situation on TV where the animals weren't going to be killed anyway though.

 

[revol68]

I don't and didn't say I did, I asked the question myself in the first place.

I do not have an issue with animals being killed, I do not have a problem with it being filmed if it was their natural path to follow, I do however have an issue with animals being killed for the sake of entertainment when maybe they might not have been killed in the first place or at that time eg people eating bugs on help I'm a celebrity etc

why the fuck would you care about bugs? What world do you live in that these kind fo things are issues for you? They could be eating children alive on I'm a celebrity and it would still be less a crime than the programme itself.

 

[madzone]

why the fuck would you care about bugs? What world do you live in that these kind fo things are issues for you? They could be eating children alive on I'm a celebrity and it would still be less a crime than the programme itself.

You're trying too hard.

 

[revol68]

You're trying too hard.

meh i'm bored, still i can't help but imagine Spacegirl sayng those posts like an 8 year old.

I mean seriously BUGS! Like who actually cares about someone eating a maggot?

 

[Space Girl]

meh i'm bored, still i can't help but imagine Spacegirl sayng those posts like an 8 year old.

I mean seriously BUGS! Like who actually cares about someone eating a maggot?

if your bored why don't you go and much on some carpet somewhere love

 

[revol68]

if your bored why don't you go and much on some carpet somewhere love

i'm guessing that is munch you meant. I don't think that would go down to well with my manager to be honest.

 

[Maggot]

I mean seriously BUGS! Like who actually cares about someone eating a maggot?

I care!

 

[Space Girl]

I care!

LOL

 

[Space Girl]

i'm guessing that is munch you meant. I don't think that would go down to well with my manager to be honest.

have you tried

 

[souljacker]

I was very impressed by the professionalism of the slaughtermen. The stunning and removing of the head was very well done and it didn't SEEM to me that any animal suffered.

I also enjoyed the bit with the butcher. Very informative and a pretty plain case was made for using your local butcher rather than a supermarket when buying your beef.

The presenter was shit though. He seemed to be going for shock rather than giving the subject matter the respect it deserved. He asked the butcher 'is it still warm?' which was a bit unneccesary IMO.

In general, it was a very interesting and informative programme.

 

[quimcunx]

And as with all these programmes about fat kids or whatever i've been seeing lately, they don't have drag it on a bit. I didn't find it very pleasant. but I eat meat and an animal has to be killed for that to happen. Whether it is always that stress free for the animal. my objections are more to how animals are kept beforehand. Still think I'd be veggie for a good while before I was driven to do the killing myself. i got upset at cooking some 'fresh' mussels!

 

[hammerntongues]

I don`t think it was done to entertain , it was done to show to those who were interested , how the whole process took place . I had no real idea of the process even if I hade some pre-conceived idea. It was educational , not entertainment. Its just interesting to see how something that we take for granted comes to be on the supermarket shelf. The buchering section was interesting too

now when they start chopping up cute little lambs next week it will be a lot more entertaining

 

[Maggot]

now when they start chopping up cute little lambs next week it will be a lot more entertaining

It's not next week, it's tonight, same time 10.30.

 

[mack]

Tonight they are slaughtering humans..... sorry I'm mean pigs which as the presenter mentioned are the closest thing to humans

 

[girasol]

Watched the lambs last night and I have to say it didn't put me off eating lamb at all. It just reinforced my view that when I eat meat I shouldn't waste it, I should appreciate it - and shouldn't eat it too often.

The lambs lived a good life and the slaughter process seemed painless. They weren't squealing (like pigs do - I heard a pig being killed once, it was awful)

However I stopped buying/ordering meals with chicken years ago when I read an article about how they are kept/pumped with hormones - absolutely disgusting!

e2a- I'm not sure I can watch tonight's programme. If there's one thing that stuck with me from childhood, it was the poor squealing pig...

Would also agree that the presenter was crap, but the butcher, the slaughtermen and the vet were very professional.

 

[girasol]

I was actually dreading watching the lambs being killed, as I had never seen it before, but as I really enjoy lamb I forced myself to watch it and was suprised when it didn't make me feel ill or shocked...

However, if it was up to me to kill animals myself, I think I'd probably only eat fish and chicken (free range chicken I don't have a problem with eating).

Or maybe not, maybe I wouldn't have problem at all - it's all a question of conditioning isn't it?

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

Once again I can't believe how charmless the presenter is.

 

[Maggot]

e2a- I'm not sure I can watch tonight's programme. If there's one thing that stuck with me from childhood, it was the poor squealing pig...

The Silence of the Pigs?

 

[Louloubelle]

I saw this and was concerned that you could see the snout of one pig poking through the doors so it could see what was happening to the pig that got stunned.

I think they producers then decided to change the camera angle and to not show the start of the stunning of any other pigs, in fact you then only saw the 2nd pig after it was stunned. The guy seemed to want to make sure that 2nd pig was really well stunned cos you could see smoke coming from the electrodes as he removed them.

On the whole the slaughterhouse looked clean and efficient but it was in sharp contrast to that other documentary (Slaughterhouse?) a year or 2 ago that showed one very disturbed man being very cruel to the sheep and really enjoying frightening them and hurting them before they were killed. Anyone remember it? He made jokes about being able to see their little souls going up the chimney as he killed them. His co workers were disgusted with him.

They also showed a Hallal and Kosher slaughterhouse, both of which seemed far less cruel than the one with that horrible man working in them.

 

[girasol]

The problem with the program, and as it was pointed out, is that it only shows a small scale slaughterhouse. In an ideal world that's how animals would be killed.

Most people would be horrified if presented with a large scale one, and also if shown the harsh reality of intensive farming methods...

I was convinced the pigs were drugged or something, they were so calm and a couple of them were sleeping. Pigs on Valium.