Kick Racism Out of Football

Discussion in 'football' started by Gromit, May 8, 2011.

  1. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    He's a total cunt but I don't like the way the shitty Mail dredges up totally irrelevant details about his family and posts up a picture of his house.

     
  2. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Come to Dulwich Hamlet or any other local non league team! So refreshing not to hear twats shouting abuse at each other.
     
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  3. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I do love that the lower/non-league teams are largely free from much of what I hate about the premiership. Hamlet from everything I understand would be a much better day out, and better value.
     
  4. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    ????
     
  5. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    what's troubling you?
     
  6. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    1. Welcome to sport. Heckling the opposition is part of all sport both on and off the pitch. Even at Cricket they have sledging. At pro wrestling you have the baddie everyone screams at. It's all part of the pantomime that is sport.
    In Canada they do it slightly different. They heckle their own team as it's rude to heckle guests. Hilariously true I swear.

    2. If it's part of sport it would be racist to heckle only white players and exclude players because they are black. Treating them as less deserving of heckling.
    There shouldn't be greater heckling coz they us black and it shouldn't be racial slurs but they should get equal levels (less than goalies who traditionally get more the outfield players).

    3. Irrelevant in football. West Ham's goalie was berrated for being a jack bastard at the Cardiff game. He ain't from Swansea or even playing for Swansea. Just because he played for them once upon a time. Wear the shirt and take the money you are an honorary [whatever].

    4. Got stats to back that up?
    I don't mean stats of what is reported by the press but actual police stats.
    The media loves to report football violence over other sports. Within football it prefers to report on certain clubs and brush under the carpet where possible the darlings of the prem.
    I know this from seeing reports of Cardiff violence reported and exaggerated far and wide nationally and yet heard of worse violence at Chelsea that never made the papers.
    They do the same with rugby and hide it.
     
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  7. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Yeah that guy was 'heckling' Sterling with some cheeky quips. Right. And you're comparing it to booing the baddie in pro-wrestling? :D
    Way to miss the point.
    You've just articulated perfectly the kind of moronic attitude which prevails in football fandom.
    So, you're seriously contesting that supporter violence is equivalent in Rugby and Cricket, but just under reported? No I don't have stats, but I hardly need any. They don't have to pass laws banning alcohol sales or beef up pub security to season ticket holders only around the grounds every week. I've never heard of travel bans and police spotters having to be used against fans in other sports. And on the very thread commenting about violent/racist abuse at Chelsea which has been picked up wholesale in the press, you're even saying the press deliberately under report on Chelsea because they are Prem 'darlings' and Cardiff get it much worse. The irony!
     
  8. BCBlues

    BCBlues Lend us a Twenner

    The guy acknowledged the fact that he appears on Sky regular because of where he is seated. Manc/Black (and i think he was being racist btw) whatever was said he looked like a nasty raging bully. Only an idiot would act like that knowing the world is watching.

    Embarrassing for the vast majority of our support.
     
  9. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    My reply was to your assertion that ANY screaming at players was out of order. It was not a reply about that specific instance so dont make out that it was.
     
  10. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    They do. It wasn't a newspaper that reported this first. It was social media. If a story gains a lot of ground on social media then yes they'll jump on the bandwagon (before social media and the internet you wouldn't have heard a peep).
    Otherwise yes the negative page space they give to prem darlings compared other clubs is disproportionate.
     
  11. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    There’s a fair difference between acceptable shouting/joshing the opposition, and what I’m pointing out as unacceptable abuse and it’s plainly obvious I’m not advocating stopping people shouting at the football.
     
  12. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    FWIW there is still an awful lot of homophobia in pro football, not to mention sexism in many sports.
    There are few sports where women even come close to being equal to men in terms of pay, opportunity, facilities Etc.
     
  13. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    It was far from plainly obvious but thanks for the clarification.
     
  14. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    Almost exactly a year ago ...

    Man 'smiles' as he is jailed for racially assaulting Raheem Sterling

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    Karl Anderson (above), who had been in a vehicle with his partner, began shouting racial abuse at Sterling and called him "you black Scouse c***".

    Anderson also told the footballer: "I hope your mother and child wake up dead in the morning you n*****."

    Immediately after being racially attcked, Mr Sterling went off to play a premier league match against Totteham Hotspur.
     
  15. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    It's not like Chelsea people to be known For their racism :confused::rolleyes:
     
  16. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    ... no, not quite yet ...

    How Raheem Sterling was made into an easy target for gathered intangible rage

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    Post-match comment from Mr Sterling (pictured above in the sky blue shirt and white shorts): 'Regarding what was said at the Chelsea game, as you can see by my reaction I just had to laugh because I expect no better.'
     
  17. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  18. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    I would imagine that like others, they are desperate to try and divert attention from the stated subject matter, [including the leading role that they play in this aspect of the issue - as clearly highlighted by Mr Sterling himself on social media on the morning following the attack on him at Stamford Bridge.

    [​IMG]

    The 'totally irrelevant' details merely illustrate the sort of people involved in this form of activity.
     
  19. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  20. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

  21. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

  22. BCBlues

    BCBlues Lend us a Twenner

    All of us ? I thought better of you hashtag.

    I could dig out articles of racist abuse and discrimination in football clubs and also give you first hand accounts of racist crap at nice places of football like Ipswich,Liverpool and yes hash tag Crystal Palace. I won't because I doesn't help. It doesn't help when media sources fire the incidents along, it just helps to attract racist individuals to that group of supporters. Chelsea have been on the receiving end of some nasty tabloid articles that have not helped, we might be "Prem darlings" but the media have a field day when it's Chelsea. . Its only a week since the banana incident which yes was reported on but nowhere to the extent of this case.

    Incidents like this piss me off and I've been supporting Chelsea a long time. I don't go anymore because I think the money ruined things despite it being part of our success. I should imagine our newer fan base, which includes from what I see a lot of black people, are really disappointed.
     
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  23. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    :D

    That's nice. :thumbs:
     
  24. BCBlues

    BCBlues Lend us a Twenner

    No probs Nige ;)
     
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  25. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    I think you will find I'm too much of a woolly, pink liberal to be a nige :D
     
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  26. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Tell me why printing his daughter's name is relevant to this story. Thanks.

    Oh and before you start posting up your usual snidey insinuations, I was on the front line fighting racism at football decades ago when doing so meant putting yourself at personal risk.
     
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  27. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    Your lazy stereotype of problems of racism at Chelsea. Btw There's also been incidents of racist abuse at Hearts, Spurs and a Celtic away game in the past fortnight.
     
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  28. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    #notallchelseafans
     
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  29. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    I mention it because because singling out one club , unless there is an overwhelming argument to do so, undermines fighting back against the increasing toxic atmosphere and these incidents generally. It's not just out and out racist verbal abuse but also the impact of a small groups of DFLA supporters at some of the midland clubs , Palace, QPR, Watford , West Ham and Spurs . The important thing is to unite all those against what's happening rather than just label clubs. The campaign at Hearts for example is to be welcomed .
     
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  30. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    If I was singling out Chelsea, it wasn’t to tar all fans with the racist brush, it was merely to point out that he’s doing no favours to the image of Chelsea fans that many people still have of headhunters, combat18 and those twats on the Paris metro.

    Someone with a front row season ticket, who’s aware he shows up on telly often, should be a bit brighter than this.
     

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