Ken wants replica guns banned
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Das Uberdog said:
I would never go paintballing precisely because I was trained at a very early age never to point a gun at anyone unless you intend killing them with it. I would not want that built in safety mindset compromised by treating firing at people in a jocular fashion.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
it wasn't just that. the man the cops shot was actually scottish, but the guy who phoned dibble said he had a strong irish accentchymaera said:
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
To be frank, whilst I'm broadly sympathetic to this proposal, I've grown so sick and tired of Ken's gobbing off on any and every subject under the sun that if he told me I should breathe air, I'd probably hold my breath til I passed out just to give two fingers to his pontifications.
BlessATOMIC SUPLEX said:
We started down that slope as a nation years ago and are now in free fall. When your Olympic pistol team can't train in their own country any more due to some spurious war against the likes of cowardly cunts like Hamilton and Ryan, you've already passed that point. We wilfully shat upon the existing rights & privileges conferred on our own citizens, and for what ?
If even a small percentage of the populist bollocks uttered after the Dunblane shooting by politicians and the police were true, by now gang members would be reduced to pistil whipping each other with bunches of daffs, and gun crime would be the sole preserve of black powder buffs and shotguns owners.
It isn't, well fancy that
For whatever reasons, some people enjoy owning replicas. As long as they keep them in their own homes, don't use them to intimidate others and don't let little Jonny get his hands on them, then.so.fucking.what ?
Prosecute the wankers that seem unable to follow this simple premise, whatever their cocking age, and leave the other law abiding (albeit slightly strange) owners alone.
It's a bit like the Brocock ban a few years ago. For every dodgy geezer with a lathe and a box of old brococks, you could find 10 or 20 guys who can source ex military hardware from Europe or the former eastern block. But no, the legit Brocock shooters got shitcanned.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Well I was taught to close with and kill the enemy, shooting your boss at close rangechymaera said:
and then attempting to butt strike him isnt really on in paint ball
.Dont know which hurt him the most getting shot in the arse or being made to look a fool .
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
Yeah... I can kinda mentally seperate the idea of firing a paint pellet at someone and something more lethal. I used to play manhunt, too. And 'apple warz!'. I guess you can never tell, but I don't feel as though my inhibition towards taking lives has been reduced.
Well then deal with the people who are the actual problem rather than those who can and do play by the rules.dash_two said:
Arrest that teen carrying a replica AK47 in the local railway station and pointing it at people. They should ram their MP5 right up his arse, flick the safety off and dare him to try something.
Swan into a bookies with a replica attempting an armed robbery, you warrant similar treatment.
Once again, I don't care if Sinister Simon, the local weirdo, spends every night wanking himself sick over the finish on his imitation "With real working slide" glock and trying to stick his knob up the magazine slot. He isn't bothering anyone and at least it keeps him off the streets, so leave him be.
There's a line and as long as he stays on the right side of it then so what.
If, on the other hand, he decides to wander down the local 7/11 with it to buy some more kleenex, then I foresee a swift encounter with the local firearms squad. Which is also as it should be.
Ken smells votes, its the same old same old.
yeah, like treefrog I'm a bit concerned about the effect on paintballers. I mean, the fact is that I own something that is capable of seriously wounding or even killing someone at a fair old range. Not that I'm idiot enough to even think about firing it anywhere other than a paintball field but that's not the point.
tbh, I'm pretty dubious about the value of banning every little thing that's either dangerous or potentially dangerous, especially in such an idiot knee jerk way as we usually get in this day and age. Hasty, badly drafted legislation is a complete waste of time.
eta: thinking about it, the most dangerous things associated with paintball are the gas/air cylinders for the markers. You don't want to be even remotely nearby if one of those goes up.
tbh, I'm pretty dubious about the value of banning every little thing that's either dangerous or potentially dangerous, especially in such an idiot knee jerk way as we usually get in this day and age. Hasty, badly drafted legislation is a complete waste of time.
eta: thinking about it, the most dangerous things associated with paintball are the gas/air cylinders for the markers. You don't want to be even remotely nearby if one of those goes up.
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
I think paintballers are totally safe though. They don't use replicas do they? When I last used them they were more like streamlined combinations of plumbing parts.
I think the most worrying part is how if someone, anyone, objects to something, anything, they immediately assume a right of veto. That would be healthy if it existed between voters and government, but it doesn't.
I think the most worrying part is how if someone, anyone, objects to something, anything, they immediately assume a right of veto. That would be healthy if it existed between voters and government, but it doesn't.
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
If you pointed a replica gun at the filth; and, the same filth pointed his real gun at you; and, pulled the trigger; the bullet/s hitting vital areas of the body - that'd make the carrying of, and pointing of a replica gun fairly lethal -wouldn't it?TopCat said:
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Originally Posted by mauvais
"If someone pulled one on you, would you know the difference?"
"If someone pulled one on you, would you know the difference?"
But, would you feel lucky enough to test whether it was real or a replica - a bit like Russian roulette, innit?TopCat said:
No you can't - doing something (crime, scaring people, waving it about in public) with it, yes. Simply possessing it, no.poster342002 said:I thought they already were? I know you can be prosecuted for possesing one. I think ...
It would be possible to make it an offence to possess them in public without lawful authority or reasonable excuse. The hobbyists don't need to wave them around in the High Street, do they?Shippou-Chan said:
It's the problems facing police officers who ARE trying to protect you that is one of the main drivers for this need. They are regularly faced with realistic imitations and they have a split second to decide whether to shoot (and risk killing someone with an imitation) or not (and risk getting shot themselves, or someone else being shot by someone with a real gun).likesfish said:
And another reason is to prevent teh bad guys getting even more viable weapons (very many of the guns in their hands are converted replicas, so it's cutting off a source of guns, something you claim to want)
Your ranting is clearly based on ignorance.
I think you'll find they were challenged, at length, about the accuracy of their call. As far as I am aware everyone believes that it was a totally genuine call made in good faith.chymaera said:
So if you're dead, it's real? I'm not sure you've thought this through ...TopCat said:
And if they shot him then you'd have a fifty odd page thread on here with everyone baying for their blood and calling them murderers...Radar said:
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Proteger? Eu fui executado pelas polícias!detective-boy said:
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Where did you find my table leg?JTG said:A paintball marker recently:
That's not even anything like the most souped up you can get either.
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
JTG said:A paintball marker recently:
That's not even anything like the most souped up you can get either.
Bloody hell they've come on, haven't they?
There's a couple of details that suggest it's not real, but not the kind you'd stand around waiting for if someone was waving this around in public...
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Looks real enough to me; it's exactly the same as the other three.Dhimmi said:Bloody hell they've come on, haven't they?
There's a couple of details that suggest it's not real, but not the kind you'd stand around waiting for if someone was waving this around in public...
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