Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
She doesn't have to be perfectly competent, or even competent, she just has to be less of a walking disaster than any of her competition.
I didn't see the BBC thing, though - was it really bad?
Kemi Badenoch’s time is up!
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I didn't see the BBC thing, though - was it really bad?
The term "history" is a little misleading here.
The first Tory leader ever to be elected by the members was Ian Duncan Smith in 2001, and the first to be elected by MPs was Edward Heath in 1965. Before then it was all done behind closed doors, with the decision made by a handful of faceless men.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I hit 'post reply' by accident - I have now edited and this addresses your first point.
On the second point, she was asked by Laura Kuenssberg if the Tories would vote against the budget. She didn't have an answer (and I still don't know whether they will or not) and she ended up attacking Labour on private school fees which she did say she'd oppose. Both Sunak and Jenrick have provided a cogent right wing analysis on the NI hike and rolled out the 'investment wthout reform' argument. Badenoch was either unable or unwilling to simply repeat this. A bizarre missed opportunity to set her stall out in my view.
Boo Radley75
Well-Known Member
There's a daily poll on yougov about whether she was a good choice. So far, less than a third of respondents even think she was fairly good.
Fairly good choice15%
Fairly bad choice15%
Very bad choice35%
Don't know24%
Do you think that the Conservatives made a good or a bad choice in electing Kemi Badenoch as their new leader?
Very good choice10%Fairly good choice15%
Fairly bad choice15%
Very bad choice35%
Don't know24%
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Among all voters, though? Whoever they had chosen would have received those kinds of numbers. Don't think that means much.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
The Culture war is irrelevant trans rights are a thing just like trans people are a thing and given that under 0.5% of the uk population are trans around a 1/4million people making huge policy statements is probably a waste of energy when your dealing with a small enough group that treating people as individuals probably works better.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Yes, indeed. There is a category that never gets recorded: those who refuse to take part in the poll when asked. "Don't knows" actually participate in the poll.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
That is basically the meaning (the other meaning is to talk in a rambling way) - it's why Elpenor made that comment.
I think you'd like the book The Meaning of Liff if you haven't encountered it already.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fair point
Whereas here, the former was more difficult but the latter was the same (and some would argue still is).
(It is quite noticeable though that a disproportionate number of female engineers I've worked with in the UK are from Eastern Europe.)
PTK
Paul Kegan
The Proclaimers were havering over you.
'500 miles was The Proclaimers only hit in the US and has appeared in numerous movies including Benny and Joon and Pitch Perfect but some US radio stations took against it.
The lyric of the song contains the Scottish word "haver".
They didn't know what it meant but they assumed it must be subversive.
It actually means to talk rubbish.'
This is the story of 30 years of The Proclaimers
A look back at three decades since Scotland's most distinctive musical twins crashed onto the scene.
www.bbc.com
PTK
Paul Kegan
If you live in Romford and fail to pay your Council Tax, then you will have Havering after you.I used it on here a while ago in the english sense of 'trying to decide what to do' - this caused some confusion with a scottish poster.
i'm not sure which the london borough of havering represents
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Would this Scottish poster be our resident moomin botherer?I used it on here a while ago in the english sense of 'trying to decide what to do' - this caused some confusion with a scottish poster.
i'm not sure which the london borough of havering represents
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
It’s bad luck to say their name!
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
We will see. She is booked in Panto over xmas.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Just what we need right now - someone with a proven track record of attempting dodgy underhand deals with Israel.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh you'd have to use the traditional remedy of saying 'hot potato off his drawers puck to make amends'
Only if you say it three times.
maomao
普費斯
Well I (am probably the only Urbanite to) live in Havering and am pretty sure that it's the 'talking bollocks' meaning. People round here are decisive enough but they don't half haver.I used it on here a while ago in the english sense of 'trying to decide what to do' - this caused some confusion with a scottish poster.
i'm not sure which the london borough of havering represents
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
And when people have had enough of them they thrust the offender's head into a haversack
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Talk about friends close, enemies closer.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
I think those Thatcher paintings in number 10 are going to have moving eyes.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
no. think there may have been a hypnotised dog involved...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
This, from the BBC's piece on Badenoch's ShadCam, made me chortle....
Literally a prize for everyone! How very woke.
Literally a prize for everyone! How very woke.
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