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treelover

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A new network...

Keep The NHS Public is the name of a new genuine grassroots campaign group which aims to fight the ongoing privatisation and commercialiisation of the NHS and keep the profiteers out. It has support fom many NHS professionals, academics, union branches, etc: at the moment, it does not seem to be dominated by any one group, though of course that could change. It appears to have started purely as an online inititaive, but is really taking off across the country. Imo, the NHS for all its faults, (its not very good on chronic illness for instance) is still the the 'jewel in the crown' and worth defending. Though, in defending it, we should also be aware of some of its deficiencies, otherwise we can look like we are just on the side of the producers, the unions, doctors, our detractors would then use this as ammunition to rubbish the campaign.

btw, are there any NHS workers on the boards or are they (probably) too busy



'Across England NHS patients and local communities have been linking up with nurses, doctors and other health care workers to meet, march, protest and lobby as they fight to stop further closures and cuts in local NHS services.

Beds, wards and even whole hospitals are closing down. 30 community hospitals are under threat. Newly qualified nurses and other health professionals are finding no jobs in the NHS, and thousands more health workers' jobs are being axed.But alongside the cuts, an unprecedented process of privatisation is under way: vital services and precious NHS resources are being handed over to the private sector, including companies run for profit for shareholders here and overseas.

Now is the time to fight back to Keep Our NHS Public!'


http://www.keepournhspublic.com/index.php
 
treelover said:
btw, shouldn' this be exactly the sort of campaign, iwca types and sympathisers should be involved in?

Some prominent Respect members involved - John Lister has an article on the site, George Galloway has signed, of course, as has a 'Dr M Lavalette - Senior Lecturer in Social Policy, University of Liverpool' aka Michael Lavalette, Respect Councillor, Preston. Can we expect a thread from Calum McD saying 'Respect lines up with Lib Dems to defend NHS (true!)'? No sign of Comrade Nellist's signature yet, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
 
[ No sign of Comrade Nellist's signature yet, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.[/QUOTE]
btw, are there any NHS workers on the boards or are they (probably) too busy

I work in the NHS and support the campaign hoping to start something locally with support of UNISON. John Lister spoke at one of the sessions at Socialism 2005.

BTW Dave Nellist will be speaking at the RMT conference on workers representation or whatever its called in January.
 
Macullam said:
I work in the NHS and support the campaign hoping to start something locally with support of UNISON. John Lister spoke at one of the sessions at Socialism 2005.

BTW Dave Nellist will be speaking at the RMT conference on workers representation or whatever its called in January.

Good to see unity on this - perhaps you could ask Calum McD to lay off the stupidities?
 
Fisher_Gate said:
Which thread that I've started are you referring to?

Blimey! Having just seen the thread after typing the previous comment i am actually inclined to agree with you :D
 
Fantastic idea for a grass roots organisation to defend the NHS. The thing is to be successful it needs to be a grass roots org and not become yet another Swappie Front.

I'd be willing to support this as long as the swappies are kept out of it.
 
Its still got masses of ordinary folk as well as consultants, etc, supporting it, I reckon its a real runner as long as it doesn't become the property of one group
 
treelover said:
Its still got masses of ordinary folk as well as consultants, etc, supporting it, I reckon its a real runner as long as it doesn't become the property of one group

Thats the thing if ordinary people see percieve it as a front for swappies (over reliance on whipped students, paper sales opportunity etc etc) then it will die.
 
dennisr said:
Blimey! Having just seen the thread after typing the previous comment i am actually inclined to agree with you :D

no bloody sense of humour some people :rolleyes: ;) Never, put you down as a nudie basher dennisr!

As for the thread, of course I would welcome any genuine attempt to link up the many local groups fighting PFI in the NHS etc. under a democratic national umbrella (can an umbrella be democratic ? :o). I hope that's what we see emerging here (not a top-down lash up between MP's/union bosses etc.)
 
KeyboardJockey said:
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I'd be willing to support this as long as the swappies are kept out of it.

And just how do you propose to build a broad-based campaign that keeps people out?

John Lister is not a 'swappie' by the way; he's the leading Respect member involved and has an impressive track record over decades of building broad-based campaigns to defend the NHS, such as London Health Emergency who he currently works for, and campaigns against hospital cuts in Oxfordshire.
 
Oh dear, just look at this press release, right out of the SWP school of hyperbole! so we have 'brilliant' twice, a 'magnificent', a 'postive' and a more restrained. 'upbeat'. Gill George(SWP) is the originator of this missive, it's looking increasingly likely that are trying to take KONP over and create another SWP front, and that's a big big shame.

btw, note hardly any mention pf patients only worker, unionists and producers, a very 19th C left trait.


Hackney KONP public meeting

’Keep Hackney NHS Public’ had its first public meeting last night (25 Jan) - a brilliant success, with well over 200 local people and health workers cramming into the hall. This contrasts with the 12 people who attended an official public consultation meeting organised recently by the Primary Care Trust.

http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0601/konplon1.html
 
treelover said:
Oh dear, just look at this press release, right out of the SWP school of hyperbole! so we have 'brilliant' twice, a 'magnificent', a 'postive' and a more restrained. 'upbeat'. Gill George(SWP) is the originator of this missive, it's looking increasingly likely that are trying to take KONP over and create another SWP front, and that's a big big shame.

I have a lot of respect for Gill George despite her SWP credentials she has done some excellent campaigning around Agenda for change in her union and beyond. I dont think the KONP is an SWP front at this stage but in areas like Hackney its inevitable it will take that form. its probably been a relief to them to gewt involved in something real after the GG big brother fiasco. I suggest you check out the web site its open for anyone to pick up the brand name and start a campaign locally. having said that I had the same initial response when reading the report on another list
 
Keep our NHS public

Keep Our NHS Public has called a national meeting of campaign activists:

Saturday 11th February 2pm - 5pm
University College, Gower Street, London WC1
It's possible to register online from the website:www.keepournhspublic.com
 
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