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RenegadeDog said:
What was rosetta stone-gate about then?

i never quite followed it, but basically Rosetta Stone is this behemoth 7gb language package which had about a billion leechers. So when I spotted it and was worried about my ratio, I - and I suspect many more people - downloaded it because it would be a good thing to seed - big file, massive demand (which to me = good ratio karma, but i might have missed something :confused: ). Anyway, I d/led all 7gb only for hardly anybody to leech it at all. I THINK it's because people were leeching specific languages, not the whole package (and at 25+ languages, if everyone was taking Spanish, and leaving Swahili and the like, that's a fraction of the whole) it meant you had a massive download with fuck all going back up the pipe. i THINK that's what happened, and i think it happened to lots of others too. :(
 
Yeah, that probably did happen :(

It's an excellent program if you still have it btw. I use it to learn Chinese.

I was thinking about dl-ing the Welsh one as a laugh.
 
I've just had a 'Peal Jam gate'. Downloaded a 900 meg pearl jam concert for the only reason that it had just a few seeds and tons of leechers. Yet got almost no uploads :(
 
RenegadeDog said:
Yeah, that probably did happen :(

It's an excellent program if you still have it btw. I use it to learn Chinese.

I was thinking about dl-ing the Welsh one as a laugh.


cool - i was thinking about tackling spanish :)
 
I have been downloading a few things now. And generally I just download it, wait for my ratio to go back above 1 (figuring I have given back more than I put in) then cancel that torrent.

Is that not good form?

The ratio seems to be different for everything I download, how does your ratio follow you?
 
I think the easiest way to cheat would be to keep using your invites to open new accounts and maxing out your 20-odd gig allowance before getting the new accounts banned, boosting your upload amount by 20 gig per invite.

Otherwise I'd guess you could forge packets to the tracker saying you'd uploaded stuff, without actually having done so, but I've not really poked around the bittorrent protocol so wouldn't have a clue how to go about that :)
 
Idaho said:
I have been downloading a few things now. And generally I just download it, wait for my ratio to go back above 1 (figuring I have given back more than I put in) then cancel that torrent.

Is that not good form?

The ratio seems to be different for everything I download, how does your ratio follow you?
ratio only follows you if you're using a members-only service. Your ratio is tracked seperately for each service you're subscribed to. On public torrents I do what you do. Wait till I've given back more than I took (usually 1.2-1.7 ish), then stop the transfer.
 
subversplat said:
I think the easiest way to cheat would be to keep using your invites to open new accounts and maxing out your 20-odd gig allowance before getting the new accounts banned, boosting your upload amount by 20 gig per invite.

so you'd be leeching from yourself? how would that work - you'd have two torrent programs on the same machine?

(not proposing doing this, but i'm slowly trying to learn how all this actually works)
 
subversplat said:
I think the easiest way to cheat would be to keep using your invites to open new accounts and maxing out your 20-odd gig allowance before getting the new accounts banned, boosting your upload amount by 20 gig per invite.

Otherwise I'd guess you could forge packets to the tracker saying you'd uploaded stuff, without actually having done so, but I've not really poked around the bittorrent protocol so wouldn't have a clue how to go about that :)

But they'd soon pick up the former by IP checks. The only way to do it would be if you were in charge of a computer room... At one point I did consider using an office computer at school to download uknova torrents I was seeding, but never got round to it.

I think it's the latter thing that cheaters do. Much simpler, if you know how, I guess.
 
Why the fuck would you want to cheat, and fuck up a free system ?

I despair at some of you so-called "lefties"

you must be weally wadical :rolleyes:
 
RaverDrew said:
Why the fuck would you want to cheat, and fuck up a free system ?

I despair at some of you so-called "lefties"

you must be weally wadical :rolleyes:


who's seriously proposing cheating? i was only interested because I want to know how it all works.
 
RaverDrew said:
Why the fuck would you want to cheat, and fuck up a free system ?

I despair at some of you so-called "lefties"

you must be weally wadical :rolleyes:
Oh shush, I'm just figuring it out. It's fun to do :)
 
RaverDrew said:
Why the fuck would you want to cheat, and fuck up a free system ?

I despair at some of you so-called "lefties"

you must be weally wadical :rolleyes:

Err... I don't think anyone wants to cheat. Just pondering how they do it.
 
Dubversion said:
i never quite followed it, but basically Rosetta Stone is this behemoth 7gb language package which had about a billion leechers. So when I spotted it and was worried about my ratio, I - and I suspect many more people - downloaded it because it would be a good thing to seed - big file, massive demand (which to me = good ratio karma, but i might have missed something :confused: ). Anyway, I d/led all 7gb only for hardly anybody to leech it at all. I THINK it's because people were leeching specific languages, not the whole package (and at 25+ languages, if everyone was taking Spanish, and leaving Swahili and the like, that's a fraction of the whole) it meant you had a massive download with fuck all going back up the pipe. i THINK that's what happened, and i think it happened to lots of others too. :(

That's what got me kicked off last time I had an Oink account - that bloody Rosetta Stone - I got the whole down but couldn't get it seeded. Anyone want to learn Vietnamese?

btw dub - could you finish seeding Dubbing you crazy - it hasn't completed once yet.
 
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