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Julie Myerson is...

Julie Myerson is...

  • A deluded guardianista pimping her family's troubles and son's privacy for coin

    Votes: 92 94.8%
  • Flagging up a growing social menace through the medium of tasteful literary fiction

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Gail Trimble

    Votes: 4 4.1%

  • Total voters
    97
Her name came up on another thread a while ago and I got called priggish for calling her 'middlebrow'. Will Self recently said she's middlebrow too. He'd know probably far more than I ever will.
She has made a career writing about her family (and in one case her house).
 
People love to see middle class families fail. It gives hope to rest of society. If people can be rich, educated, urbane and smug, and still fail as parents, then maybe the rest of us are not so bad. If the posh kid from the nice part of town drops out of school and ends up shooting up in a grimy squat, then everyone else feels that they are less of a failure. He had such advantages, and yet he ended up such a loser, and his irritating mother, for all her parenting airs and graces, failed the fundamental test of being a successful mother.

My sympathy for Julie Myerson and her son is somewhat tempered by the fact that clearly neither of them is particularly bright. How predicatable that the tabloids would strike out against the mother who wrote a book about her drug adict son. Even more predicatable that the son would take the cheque from the same tabloids and indulge their frenzied need for good copy with a vindicative attack on both his parents. I imagine the grandparents and the cousins will be brought into the spotlight in coming days. They are simple-minded folk trapped in the web of tabloid exploitation, and they clearly have not spotted that the joke is on them. They will soon, but by then it will be too late.

So it turns out that the urges of nice middle class families are no different from everyone else, which is even more satisfying for everyone else. A relatively small cheque will have them all turn on each other. Mothers will denounce sons and sons will denounce mothers.

The tabloids, like Jerry Springer, are smart cookies. They have found a way to make money exploiting people like this, and the rest of us.
 
So it turns out that the urges of nice middle class families are no different from everyone else, which is even more satisfying for everyone else. A relatively small cheque will have them all turn on each other. Mothers will denounce sons and sons will denounce mothers.

The tabloids, like Jerry Springer, are smart cookies. They have found a way to make money exploiting people like this, and the rest of us.

Aside from the patronising tone of your post I don't see how the logic of your argument works.

Myerson spent a long time researching and writing a book that exposed her son's drug use. Then she decided to try and publish it.

I don't see how your argument that she's essentially a dim woman being manipulated by tabloid culture works. She made her own decisions a long time before the press picked up on the whole mess.
 
People love to see middle class families fail. It gives hope to rest of society. If people can be rich, educated, urbane and smug, and still fail as parents, then maybe the rest of us are not so bad. If the posh kid from the nice part of town drops out of school and ends up shooting up in a grimy squat, then everyone else feels that they are less of a failure. He had such advantages, and yet he ended up such a loser, and his irritating mother, for all her parenting airs and graces, failed the fundamental test of being a successful mother.

My sympathy for Julie Myerson and her son is somewhat tempered by the fact that clearly neither of them is particularly bright. How predicatable that the tabloids would strike out against the mother who wrote a book about her drug adict son. Even more predicatable that the son would take the cheque from the same tabloids and indulge their frenzied need for good copy with a vindicative attack on both his parents. I imagine the grandparents and the cousins will be brought into the spotlight in coming days. They are simple-minded folk trapped in the web of tabloid exploitation, and they clearly have not spotted that the joke is on them. They will soon, but by then it will be too late.

So it turns out that the urges of nice middle class families are no different from everyone else, which is even more satisfying for everyone else. A relatively small cheque will have them all turn on each other. Mothers will denounce sons and sons will denounce mothers.

The tabloids, like Jerry Springer, are smart cookies. They have found a way to make money exploiting people like this, and the rest of us.

Personally, I don't buy Julie M as an idiot being exploited. I deal a lot with publishers and with real life stories and I suspect she knew damn well that this particular story would be used by her publishers to maximise publicity and therefore sales of a book which quite frankly sounds like something that really wouldn't sell much otherwise. It's not the tabloids making money out of this.
 
Julie Myerson: the broadsheets' Jade Goody
This made me laugh.

Andrew Collins said:
In response to the controversy, her son Jake last week did his own interview and claimed his mother was "an author". In an interview in The Sunday Times, Myerson admits her decision to do broadsheet interviews to help advertise the book before its publication is controversial. "If you allow your book to come out without publicising it, you will get flak," she says. "But I don't care what people say about me in the press, as long as they're saying something about me in the press."
 
I heard her bleating on about herself on Radio 4 this evening and got a little bit of sick in my mouth. Leaving aside the matter of her pimping her kid out for personal gain, she is clearly too drunk on self-regard to be worth any attention.
 
If she is the author of Living With Teenagers, the reason she stopped writing it is because her teenagers friends spilled the beans and they were furious. Apparantly her son was known as Four Pubes in school because his mother had written an article about her son getting hus first pubes, lovingly recounting that he had only four hairs! Can you imagine the therapy that child will need, I would never condone violence but my god....:eek:
 
She doesn't get it, just because she's an author, it doesn't give her the right to publish personal details about her son's life, he is entitled to a private life and its a complete invasion. How could you ever go to her for help, when you know she is going to share your life with the whole world.
What a sad affair.
 
And another thing - the way the press have commented and reported upon this has brought class prejudices sharply into focus.
 
I haven't had any direct exposure to Julie Myerson pieces just the comment+ opinion pieces. And fuck me..... where are these 'journalists' coming from???
Things along the lines of: 'middle-class family DRUGS ordeal.. I never thought it possible..."
like having a large mortage is somekind of magical amulet that protects all dwellers from those evil drugss.......

Jake is clearly a twat. The partents are self-regarding scumbags./.
 
Paxo didn't need to try to rip her apart, she did it herself. An utterly hopeless performance, contradicting herself all over the shop, and showing her to clearly be an egomaniac who believes she is the centre of the universe. Scum, to put it briefly. Her claims that she loved 'her boy' came over as utterly fake and unbelievable. i hope her other kids walk out on her too.

perhaps her sons changes had something to do with, 1) being 14; 2) having a self-centred shit of a mother who whored him out for her own self-advancement
 
Personally, I don't buy Julie M as an idiot being exploited. I deal a lot with publishers and with real life stories and I suspect she knew damn well that this particular story would be used by her publishers to maximise publicity and therefore sales of a book which quite frankly sounds like something that really wouldn't sell much otherwise. It's not the tabloids making money out of this.


Likewise, ticket sales for her talk at our local uni in May have now picked up significantly, after a very sluggish start…think I might even go and rubberneck myself. :D
 
For anyone who wants a really good vomit, Jonathan Myerson has decided that the best way to make the attention die down is to trouser probably around two grand for defending his wife's advance, sorry, his wife's book, in the Guardian today.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/10/cannabis-drug-abuse

For Christ's sake. You expect idiot teenagers to behave like idiot teenagers. You don't expect adults to behave like idiot teenagers. Nyah nyah nyah, he did this first, he did that first, the papers don't like us, it's not faaaaaaaaaair.
 
For anyone who wants a really good vomit, Jonathan Myerson has decided that the best way to make the attention die down is to trouser probably around two grand for defending his wife's advance, sorry, his wife's book, in the Guardian today.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/10/cannabis-drug-abuse

For Christ's sake. You expect idiot teenagers to behave like idiot teenagers. You don't expect adults to behave like idiot teenagers. Nyah nyah nyah, he did this first, he did that first, the papers don't like us, it's not faaaaaaaaaair.

What the fuck is he talking about?! The lad was just smoking weed

Or was it worse when, maybe an hour before that, his mother and I realised - without even a word exchanged - that we had both finally reached this tipping point? All the addiction experts and all the drug counselling literature told us that this was the only way - "exclude the addict until he understands and asks for help" - but we had fought against this final step, telling ourselves we could handle anything, he's our son, we would never expel him. But that morning we see afresh the lank, lost squalor in which he is choosing to live, the wilful self-destructiveness, and finally we understand the inevitable flow of cannabis from him to his younger siblings. We have to protect them, we have to protect what remains of home life.
 
People love to see middle class families fail. It gives hope to rest of society. If people can be rich, educated, urbane and smug, and still fail as parents, then maybe the rest of us are not so bad. If the posh kid from the nice part of town drops out of school and ends up shooting up in a grimy squat, then everyone else feels that they are less of a failure. He had such advantages, and yet he ended up such a loser, and his irritating mother, for all her parenting airs and graces, failed the fundamental test of being a successful mother.

My sympathy for Julie Myerson and her son is somewhat tempered by the fact that clearly neither of them is particularly bright. How predicatable that the tabloids would strike out against the mother who wrote a book about her drug adict son. Even more predicatable that the son would take the cheque from the same tabloids and indulge their frenzied need for good copy with a vindicative attack on both his parents. I imagine the grandparents and the cousins will be brought into the spotlight in coming days. They are simple-minded folk trapped in the web of tabloid exploitation, and they clearly have not spotted that the joke is on them. They will soon, but by then it will be too late.

So it turns out that the urges of nice middle class families are no different from everyone else, which is even more satisfying for everyone else. A relatively small cheque will have them all turn on each other. Mothers will denounce sons and sons will denounce mothers.

The tabloids, like Jerry Springer, are smart cookies. They have found a way to make money exploiting people like this, and the rest of us.

Close, but no cigar.

She doesn't get it, just because she's an author, it doesn't give her the right to publish personal details about her son's life, he is entitled to a private life and its a complete invasion. How could you ever go to her for help, when you know she is going to share your life with the whole world.
What a sad affair.

Paxo didn't need to try to rip her apart, she did it herself. An utterly hopeless performance, contradicting herself all over the shop, and showing her to clearly be an egomaniac who believes she is the centre of the universe. Scum, to put it briefly. Her claims that she loved 'her boy' came over as utterly fake and unbelievable. i hope her other kids walk out on her too.

perhaps her sons changes had something to do with, 1) being 14; 2) having a self-centred shit of a mother who whored him out for her own self-advancement

Well, quite.
 
People love to see middle class families fail. It gives hope to rest of society. If people can be rich, educated, urbane and smug, and still fail as parents, then maybe the rest of us are not so bad.

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My sympathy for Julie Myerson and her son is somewhat tempered by the fact that clearly neither of them is particularly bright. How predicatable that the tabloids would strike out against the mother who wrote a book about her drug adict son.


Well as others have mentioned Myerson played the game with this by choosing to write the book and do the interviews so if the tabloids do strike out at all then she partly deserves it. If you play the game...

Class has nothing to do with this, the episode shows that some families are seriously messed up, this one in particular sounds like an extreme example. Plenty of working and middle class families are ticking along fine, problems arise but we deal with them somehow. If my family experienced this I'd like to thikn we would exhaust a (seriously) large number of other approaches before anyone decided to write a book. And even then the book would be a betrayal. I hope no one buys it.

I could be wrong but sounds like: Someone generating publicity for themselves by using highly personal issues as material. Tabloids jump in. Nothing at all indicative of class imo. They run scare stories about awful working class families too, are they really so representative?
 
What the fuck is he talking about?! The lad was just smoking weed

Ah, but this isn't the stuff middle class students like the Myersons "inhaled" or not ...

Jonathan Myerson said:
That was then. Skunk is GM cannabis. Evidence from the Forensic Science Service suggests that skunk cannabis (otherwise known as sinsemilla) is remarkably stronger than ever before. It is unquestionably different, definitely stronger. In skunk, the active ingredient, THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), has been ramped up significantly. But perhaps more importantly, this has been achieved at the cost of another component of naturally occurring cannabis, CBD (cannabidiol). And some scientists are starting to think that CBD has antipsychotic properties - something to offset the THC in old-fashioned marijuana but absent in skunk.

:rolleyes:
 
On Front Row on R4 last night she expressed her disappointment that her son had sold his story to a tabloid.

She'd never read it again, she declared.

Quality comedy....quality.
 
Interesting bit in the Jonathan Myerson article

As he rummages through the scrappy boxes we brought back from the abandoned flat, I pick an argument and I pick it and I pick it and then I simply let go and am throwing a punch at him. Of course, I don't know how to punch someone. He easily knocks me away and we grapple meaninglessly for a few seconds. Inside I have three, four years of frustration wanting to blow....... I have deliberately tried to strike my son, to punch him until he hurts.

Looks like the son wasn't the only one indulging in unprovoked violence. In another article today (sorry, this is all car crash reading for me, I can't take my eyes off it) Julie Myerson's sister claims that when she went round her house to try and effect a reconcilation (over disputed claims in a book about their father) JM ended up physically attacking her and throwing her out of the house by the hair.
 
I wonder if anyone's gone through Pop Myerson's record as a magistrate yet? I wonder what sort of punishments he used to mete out to teenagers who like a bifta?
 
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