JSA - training after 6 months

[josef1878]

"Sorry if that appears a bit arrogant but my impression of the job centre plus network so far is that they are geared up to help unskilled people"

100% right there. Everything now being put in place was designed prior to the current economic shitstorm. Designed to help those who have many barriers to getting work.

There are flexibilities in the FND which may suit your requirements. Ask as many questions as possible at your interview and good luck.

 

[josef1878]

Face facts. The thread starter is a lazy cunt who does not want to work. Now thats fair enough, each to their own and there is a part of me that is rather envious of people laid back enough to do that but lets not get on our high horses about this.

Maybe the poster is an ex postie who got sacked because some spitefull cunt got him sacked for losing his parcel. You know that type of cunt dont you?

 

[hazyp]

There have been huge changes since April 6th and I think JCP and its providers have previously put a lot of people on courses that are unsuitable, certainly, but things have to change. I wasnt talking about the New Deal courses, but the new type of help that has come about since that date.

There are now Executive courses which are supposedly really good and involve a lot of networking and have given good feedback.

There are now group sessions for people out of work for less than 13 weeks and money available from Rapid Response Service, for intensive driving lessons, updating of HGV licences, in fact, as long as the money is used to overcome a barrier to work then a payment of up to £3000 can be made.

For over 6 months claimants there is the Recruitment Subsidy which I have previously mentioned. Of course employers will always want to employ the best person for the job, as it has always been, but if the workforce can be upskilled by providing NVQs and such like then then an applicant will have more chance of getting the job.

I think a lot of the comments have been made about the old courses, please ask about the new help available, it is so much better.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Bloody hell that place looks cool , shame Im no longer local enough , how much do those places charge for courses in music production for employed?

Do you know of anything like it near staffordshire

err think the prices are on the web somewhere

we tend not to run many
practically all our students are off thre dole and it gets wierd if it's a mixed group

unfortunatly i don't really know much i just teach some of the more techy stuff and build things like the exam system and the forum

 

[SpookyFrank]

Believe me I do want to work but in the right work - a job that I want to do, am qualified for and which will benefit the organisation and myself - not some dead end job with no prospects and no job satisfaction.

Well done you. It should be everyone's right to choose what they do for a living as only this will oblige employers to treat workers fairly and with respect. If a company can get staff sent along from the JCP at the drop of a hat they will have no cause to be nice to either their new employees or their existing ones, as any dissenting worker will know all too well how easy they are to replace and so will want to keep their head down and put up with whatever is thrown at them.

As the recession deepens this problem becomes far worse of course, suddenly everyone in the most badly paid, degrading and pointless jobs will be 'lucky' to be in even that position. The DWP and its various tentacles, with all their schemes to force people into shit jobs against their will, is going to make a bad situation far worse in terms of working conditions. The cries will ring out that we all have to tighten our belts and grit our teeth and so on, and yet still the bastards we work for will keep their expanisve waistlines and immaculate pearly whites fully intact. We've already seen companies cutting wages and staff numbers while their profits are rising, and this will continue to happen because staff have little choice but to accept it.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

...I think its a real shame when there are things out there to help you.....and you dont want it.....so many people would really like the help.

I think that's a bit patronising and arsey, tbh, bordering on well out of order.

When I wasn't working (due to medical negligence and waiting for corrective surgery), I wanted to do some training that would help me get back into work when my medical problems were sorted, but the only things they could offer me were training to be a fork lift truck driver or a carer as these were apparently 'skills shortages' in my local area.

Given that my problems related to a fucked up wrist, working outdoors or in a freezing, draughty warehouse driving a forklift truck, (my injury was affected by cold, a badly broken wrist resulted in pain when cold) or lifting up elderly people while working as a carer (when I couldn't even lift a hoover to clean my own home) were non-starters.

It would be really great if the "help" offered was appropriate to people's needs and also to their skills and experiences, instead of trying to offload people onto training programme set up by private contractors to milk the system.

Having a standard DWP attitude of trying to force square pegs into round holes doesn't help anyone.

 

[XR75]

There have been huge changes since April 6th and I think JCP and its providers have previously put a lot of people on courses that are unsuitable, certainly, but things have to change. I wasnt talking about the New Deal courses, but the new type of help that has come about since that date.

There are now Executive courses which are supposedly really good and involve a lot of networking and have given good feedback.

There are now group sessions for people out of work for less than 13 weeks and money available from Rapid Response Service, for intensive driving lessons, updating of HGV licences, in fact, as long as the money is used to overcome a barrier to work then a payment of up to £3000 can be made.

For over 6 months claimants there is the Recruitment Subsidy which I have previously mentioned. Of course employers will always want to employ the best person for the job, as it has always been, but if the workforce can be upskilled by providing NVQs and such like then then an applicant will have more chance of getting the job.

I think a lot of the comments have been made about the old courses, please ask about the new help available, it is so much better.

Do you have any links to news about the funding or courses you've mentioned as the don't seem as good as they look, for example the rapid response service is only for the newly redundant from the articles I've seen.