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[october_lost]

Yes they did, time and time again. However that doesn't negate the fact that:

1. Labour is a mass party

and

2. It's based on the labour movement.

Sorry but this is wrong, what is it a mass party of? And how is it based on the labour movement?
There isnt a single aspiration that the New Labour party defends that would be supported outright by ordinary people, the old trot addage that you defend what you have got is a laugh when the Labour party represents very little of what we want to defend.

 

[lewislewis]

In my constituency it's mainly a mass party of wankers in suits.

 

[Fullyplumped]

In my constituency it's mainly a mass party of wankers in suits.

How should people dress in your constituency?

 

[Guineveretoo]

I certainly won't be joining the Labour Party! Besides which, I don't think John McDonnell could serve this country well as Prime Minister, so he wouldn't get my vote even if I did join up!

 

[Fullyplumped]

I think that the Beeb has got this wrong, unless the Labour Party has changed its rules.

Being the control freaks that they are I doubt it. However if anyone wants to try to join in order to vote for McDonnell just go ahead. There won't be many who do so to get Brown nominated.

This is from an email to members yesterday from the General Secretary -

In an effort to maximise the number of people able to participate in these elections the NEC has agreed that Friday, 1 June will be the deadline by which voters can join the party, and members can pay off their membership arrears or rejoin the party from lapsed membership.

Any one who joins by this date and members who have not lapsed from their membership will be eligible to vote in these elections. So make sure you, and your friends and family, are able to take part in this historic occasion and help shape the future of our party, and our country.
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Join the Labour Party and get a vote in these elections. Join today by calling 08705 900 200 or by clicking here.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Could you give a few good reasons why people should join the Labour party?

The opportunity to discuss and help form party policy, select candidates for election to Parliament and your local Council, to be nominated as a candidate and run for public office, to help in elections, and to enjoy a hectic social life with like-minded people. No selling tabloid papers outside factories or train stations involved.

 

[ska invita]

It costs £3 a month or £1 a month unwaged by standing order.
No one can stop you cancelling your standing order after 1 month if you want to.

The better vote McDonnell gets, and the more activists who join then stay, the better position the left is in for future battles against the New Labour clique sitting on top of the Labour Party.

Entryism into the Labour Party - it could work! How many signed up memebers are there now? HOw many would need to sign up and vote McDonnel for him to stand a chance? Can anyone work out if it were even possible?

Just wondering if it physicaly possible. John was bragging how many of the unions are going to back him - but I guess its hard to preempt the vote completely.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Entryism into the Labour Party - it could work!

Famous last words! But you should definitely give it a go.

 

[lewislewis]

How should people dress in your constituency?

However they like, just pointing out that the whole 'party of the workers' thing seems to be quite lost on the managerial types that run the party, even at local level. Champagne socialists.

 

[lewislewis]

The opportunity to discuss and help form party policy, select candidates for election to Parliament and your local Council, to be nominated as a candidate and run for public office, to help in elections, and to enjoy a hectic social life with like-minded people. No selling tabloid papers outside factories or train stations involved.

Dim diolch.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Yes they did, time and time again. However that doesn't negate the fact that:

1. Labour is a mass party

and

2. It's based on the labour movement.

Hogwash. Labour is a shrinking party based chiefly on corporate donations and the whims of fundementalist capitalism. Get a grip and stop using this board as an advertising space for a bunch of war criminals and associated apologists.

 

[belboid]

The Labour Party turned their backs on the working class in the quest for power. It ignored the majority who didn't want to go to war. Now make them pay:

the political fund does not just fund the labour party. Those who opt out are tories.

 

[belboid]

The opportunity to discuss and help form party policy,

you're going back a bit arent you??!! Ordinary party members have absolutely feck all influence over policy, they had precious litle enough when I was a member and absolutely none now.

 

[TAE]

Ok, who of you started this?

http://www.pledgebank.com/vote4John

"I will join the Labour Party and vote for John McDonnell in the leadership election of 2007 but only if 100,000 other people will do the same."

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

However they like, just pointing out that the whole 'party of the workers' thing seems to be quite lost on the managerial types that run the party, even at local level. Champagne socialists.

Round my way, there's some champagne to them but bugger all socialism.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

However they like, just pointing out that the whole 'party of the workers' thing seems to be quite lost on the managerial types that run the party, even at local level. Champagne socialists.

Round my way, there's some champagne to them but bugger all socialism.

 

[treelover]

Why are they doing this, its pretty weird, are they bankrupt or something? surely they are beginning to become democratic

This is from an email to members yesterday from the General Secretary -

In an effort to maximise the number of people able to participate in these elections the NEC has agreed that Friday, 1 June will be the deadline by which voters can join the party, and members can pay off their membership arrears or rejoin the party from lapsed membership.

Any one who joins by this date and members who have not lapsed from their membership will be eligible to vote in these elections. So make sure you, and your friends and family, are able to take part in this historic occasion and help shape the future of our party, and our country.

Join the Labour Party and get a vote in these elections. Join today by calling 08705 900 200 or by clicking here.

 

[bluestreak]

fucking morally bankrupt and that's a fact.

they have fuck all to do with the labour movement anymore. and the likes of you and i have fuck all influence. they've proved that. now people want us to forgive and forget? well fuck that, fuck them, and fuck you to. they didn't listen to us then, and if you're fucking pigshit thick enough to think that suddenly they'll listen to us now then you and neolabour deserve each other.

"oh we've changed, blair has gone now, that nastly man woulnd't let us listen to you, but now, i promise if you hand over your moeny now, i promise i'll listen to you"...

 

[Paul_N17]

if they're members of affiliated unions, but if you join and vote as a LP member as well, your vote will be worth so much more

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Hold on, you actually get an extra vote if you join the party?

If so, I'm in. Assuming John gets the nominations.

 

[Fullyplumped]

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Hold on, you actually get an extra vote if you join the party?

If so, I'm in. Assuming John gets the nominations.

You get a vote as a party member in the party member section of the electoral college and you get a vote as a Union member in the Unions section of the electoral college. You should definitely join the party.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Champagne socialists.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[Matt S]

Well, whatever one thought of this idea (i.e. its an extremely bad one) - its now all a bit of a moot point, as it looks extremely unlikely that anyone except Brown will be on the ballot paper anyway.

Matt

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Yep. 25 Labour MPs left to nominate. McDonnell is on 29 nominations. He needs 16 of the 25, but 2 of the 25 have apparently indicated that they won't be backing him. That leaves him chasing 16 from 23.

Labourhome is claiming that he's about to concede.

 

[guinnessdrinker]

this is all assuming that John McDonnell will get his 44?45? needed nominations from MPs. he only has 28 confirmed and the far majority of others have gone to Brown. he may not make it.

 

[treelover]

Maybe so, but a fair few people have joined/rejoined the LP in order to support him, he may have quite a considerable and importantly vocal powerbase when the process finishes.

Well, whatever one thought of this idea (i.e. its an extremely bad one) - its now all a bit of a moot point, as it looks extremely unlikely that anyone except Brown will be on the ballot paper anyway.

Matt

 

[lewislewis]

Maybe so, but a fair few people have joined/rejoined the LP in order to support him, he may have quite a considerable and importantly vocal powerbase when the process finishes.

Idiot.

 

[TAE]

Maybe so, but a fair few people have joined/rejoined the LP in order to support him, he may have quite a considerable and importantly vocal powerbase when the process finishes.

I find it more likely that Labour will hemorrhage even more members if Brown takes over unopposed.

 

[chilango]

Please can we stop flogging a dead horse?

The Labour Party is finished as vehicle for radical change, and has been for a hell of a long time.

 

[audiotech]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Don't he so.

Apparently, the working class now have had enough of being left out of the party and buying champagne by the bucket load and why not indeed.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Only 18 MPs left to nominate. McDonnell is still on 29 and needs 16 more to make it.