Join the campaign against RightMove's "No DSS" policy

Discussion in 'benefits and housing' started by Wookey, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    I'm currently working on a Shelter campaign, and wondered if you lot would like to assist?

    Leading property portal Rightmove is continuing to allow DSS discrimination on its site despite a wave of changes sweeping the lettings industry. Barring people from renting a home simply because they get a housing benefit top-up is prejudice plain and simple, and likely to be unlawful in many cases too. Rightmove is helping fuel misery for hundreds of thousands all over the country and adding to the number of people who cannot find a home.

    A host of household names including Zoopla, Co-op, NatWest and Nationwide have removed this discrimination from their policies and platforms, yet a couple of clicks on Rightmove’s website reveal pages of “No DSS’ adverts. The government has now joined Shelter's call for change, which is why we want Rightmove to take urgent action in response to mounting political and public pressure. The role of property portals in ending this discrimination cannot be underestimated.

    You can send them a pre-crafted Tweet here:

    Tweet them

    Or send them a message on one of their Facebook posts, here's a message you can copy and paste, feel free to personalise it:

    When will you ban adverts on your website that discriminate against people receiving housing benefit?


    We need to make sure that Rightmove feels the pressure on this and you can play a part in that.

    If like Zoopla, they finally decide to outright ban ‘no DSS’ ads on their site, this will send massive shockwaves across the industry - bringing a swifter end to discrimination faced by so many across the country.

    The fact that the majority of people in the UK who are on benefit top-ups are women make this (we have argued successfully in court) a gender discrimination issue.

    So I would really appreciate it if you could support the campaign with a quick Tweet, or (knowing Urban) something perhaps even more... imaginative?


  2. BoatieBird

    BoatieBird Well-Known Member

    Done :thumbs:
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  3. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    Oh yeah! Tell me if you help and you'll get a wave of Wookey love right in the face. :)

    Thanks for kicking us off BoatieBird ! xx
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  4. BristolEcho

    BristolEcho Well-Known Member

    Will do. Will share around too. Good work.
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  5. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Also done :thumbs:
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  6. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

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  7. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    duly tweeted
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  8. Voley

    Voley Ramoner

    Tweeted. Nice one Wookey.
  9. rowan

    rowan Well-Known Member

    Done :thumbs:
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  10. Dan U

    Dan U Boompty

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  11. MrSki

    MrSki Who am I to say you're wrong

    I have tweeted but don't know how much good it will do. I have not got many followers.:(
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  12. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Done :thumbs:
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  13. rowan

    rowan Well-Known Member

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  14. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

  15. nogojones

    nogojones Well-Known Member

    Will tweet em when I remember my twitter password :rolleyes:

    You don't by any chance know of a phone number in the Cardiff offfice that will get answered? Been phoning them for a couple of weeks for a friend who is about to be made homeless and no one ever picks up.

    eta - that's Shelter, not Rightmoves
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  16. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

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  17. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    The phone advice lines are massively oversubscribed I'm afraid, a result of the national housing crisis.

    I would suggest visiting the hub in Cardiff if he can, or try the Shelter Cymru website...

    Get Advice - Shelter Cymru

    His local CAB might be able to refer him to Shelter which will speed it up. He needs advice as soon as possible. Quicker the better as there are steps that could be taken to protect him, but only with the right support and advice.

    PM me some details if you want, I'm not an advisor but I know a bit. Knowing his category of need would be a start (is he in private or social, has he been served a S21, has his deposit been properly protected?) These are the questions we would ask to determine a person's rights and convince a landlord that eviction might not be a good idea.
  18. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    Doesn't matter, it's not about your followers seeing this or about spreadng the message, it's about the marketing team that manage rightmove's social media feed seeing as many of these as possible so they feel the need to raise this as a problem in terms of image/pr internally at rightmove.

    In this way, your tweet is as useful or important as someone with lots of followers.
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  19. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    Wookey I've no Twitter or Facebook, is there a targeted email address i could send a rant to?
  20. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    If it has been successfully argued in court to be gender discrimination, is Shelter going to take the obvious next step and sue RightMove?
  21. dessiato

    dessiato Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono

    Facebook is saying page unavailable "too many redirects" but I'll keep trying.

    I've tweeted too.

    I'm getting "bad gateway" for the petition. I'll try later.
  22. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

  23. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    Couldn't comment. ;)

    The next obvious step isn't really to sue, it's to get them to voluntarily change their policy on the understanding that were the principal challenged by an individual in court (rather than our judicial review) they would be very likely to lose according to the advice we've sought.

    BigTom If you can't Tweet or FB, you can sign the petition? DSS Petition
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  24. Wookey

    Wookey Muppet is not a slur

    Exactly, I was gonna suggest emailing their press team also, that would result in more internal pressure.
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  25. dessiato

    dessiato Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono

    Managed to post on their FB page at last.
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  26. ruffneck23

    ruffneck23 Well-Known Member

    tweeted so me and my 4 followers can get in on it
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  27. dessiato

    dessiato Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono

    I've just got this from them

    Hi (Dessiato) - thanks for your post – this week we’ve asked all our letting agent customers to explain in their ads where a landlord is unable to consider a tenant on benefits and why this is, following this guidance from the government >> We’ll also be stripping out old language such as ‘No DSS' from May onwards.
  28. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    it's a fucking disgrace and some kind of social prejudice/discrimination for sure.

    I'll be posting on Facebook.
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  29. Argonia

    Argonia Happy go licky

    Signed the petition today
  30. inva

    inva Well-Known Member

    I for one want only the most modern language used when I'm being excluded by landlords/agencies.
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