John McCain

[CharlieAddict]

regan was different.

he was a western film star.
and was very good at reading scripts.

 

[Jografer]

regan was different.

he was a western film star.
and was very good at reading scripts.

McCain will play it as the "Right Stuff", which middle america will lap up IMHO...

 

[Belushi]

regan was different.

he was a western film star.
and was very good at reading scripts.

That film he was in with the monkey is ace.

 

[goldenecitrone]

That film he was in with the monkey is ace.

Bedtime for Bonzo I think it were called.

 

[CharlieAddict]

That film he was in with the monkey is ace.

nah not seen Bedtime for Bonzo.

but this screenshot looks good.

http://www.thewednesdayreport.com/t...Vice_President_George_Herbert_Walker_Bush.jpg

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Yep, unfortunately. I think Hillary will get the Democrat nomination and then get thoroughly fucked over by the Republican hate campaign. Not that she's all that popular with half of the country anyway.

....realizing, of course, that McCain is splitting the republican coalition formed by Bush, because the hard line christians and conservatives who supported Bush, don't really like McCain.

 

[Detroit City]

if i had to vote today i'd probably go with McCain

 

[dilute micro]

Anybody thought of a McCain/Powell ticket? Of course Powell won't do it but McCain would pummel the Hilldabeast.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Anybody thought of a McCain/Powell ticket? Of course Powell won't do it but McCain would pummel the Hilldabeast.

McCain/Powell, I might even vote for, if I was an american.

I really don't like the repubs, but I'm just not inspired by Hillobama. Why her for the first woman candidate? Why did the first black guy have to look and sound like Howdy Doody?

 

[Detroit City]

but I'm just not inspired by Hillobama.

me neither, i think they are both full of shit(e)

 

[goldenecitrone]

McCain/Powell, I might even vote for, if I was an american.

I really don't like the repubs, but I'm just not inspired by Hillobama. Why her for the first woman candidate? Why did the first black guy have to look and sound like Howdy Doody?

I've heard of Howdy Doody, I think Stephen King mentioned him in some of his books. Wasn't he some kind of cartoon character on kid's tv?

 

[mears]

I support Romney, but it looks like Mccain will get the nomination. Mccain goes by his own tune, and will take a shot at anyone, the Bush administration included. Conservative commentators like Rush Limbaugh can't stand him, I would vote for him against Hillary and probably Obama.

If Hillary gets the nomination the conservative base would vote for Mccain, or the devil himself to keep her out of office. He appeals to independents and his record in combat is much respected.

I think his biggest weakness is his age (over 70) and health (bout with skin cancer).

I think he would hold the line on government spending and he is a free trader. Mccain's stance on adding more troops in Iraq has been vindicated so far, but if the situation deteriorates that prove a weakness as well.

 

[newharper]

If Hillary gets the nomination the conservative base would vote for Mccain, or the devil himself to keep her out of office. He appeals to independents and his record in combat is much respected.

Honest question Mears.

What is it with Hillary? To a european she seems just another right wing apparatchik. Smoother round the edges than some, but in no way more worthy of abuse than the rest.

 

[nino_savatte]

I reckon a lot of Hillary-bashing is just good auld American misogyny. Aye, she's an ice maiden but fuck me, is this all the Repubs can do?

 

[agricola]

Honest question Mears.

What is it with Hillary? To a european she seems just another right wing apparatchik. Smoother round the edges than some, but in no way more worthy of abuse than the rest.

She was more politically active than they consider a First Lady should have been, she raised the dread spectre of healthcare for all, and worst of all she was part of an administration that displayed competence when viewed against what came before and (especially) what came after.

I do wonder though whether it will be as negative a campaign if McCain wins - after all, he has been the victim of the same people and the same dirty tricks (in 2000), so its unlikely they would be able to influence things as they did both times with Bush. If Romney wins the nomination, or if they put up an "independent" candidate, expect blood.

 

[dilute micro]

It's all the crap she was involved in, filegate, whitewater, travelgate and some others I can't even remember. Add to that somebody that snubbed her nose to her own state's people and ran for senate in NY where she had a better chance of getting elected. It shows she's blatantly about power and that public office to her has nothing to do with the public. Then there's her personality. She's well understood to be a mean person. She has no problem with saying anything no matter how outrageous and that's saying a lot when we're talking about Washington politicians. And she's the single most polarizing person that could be president.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I've heard of Howdy Doody, I think Stephen King mentioned him in some of his books. Wasn't he some kind of cartoon character on kid's tv?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I support Romney, .

Can I ask what it is about him that has made you want to give him your support?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

... who unfortunately won twice, 2nd with a landslide, & would have won a 3rd if the rules had allowed...

Hey, there's no way I'm gonna try to sell people on the intelligence of American-voters. We've been bred to respond to .

Bullshitting people has become [/B].

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why her for the first woman candidate?

'Cause we've had a rerun of Daddy Bush's years.....and, we need Team Clinton to clean-things-up....AGAIN!!

"Not only was the entire national deficit eliminated after raising taxes on the wealthy in 1993, but the economy grew so fast for the remainder of the decade that many conservative economists thought that the Fed should raise the prime interest rate in order to slow it down."

 

[nino_savatte]

Hey, there's no way I'm gonna try to sell people on the intelligence of American-voters. We've been bred to respond to .

Bullshitting people has become [/B].

Ah, Century of the Self: good doco that. You should have a look at Curtis's The Trap too.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If Hillary gets the nomination the conservative base would vote for Mccain, or the devil himself to keep her out of office. He appeals to independents and his record in combat is much respected.

John McCain is a garden-variety Opportunist....who'll tolerate ANYTHING, to maintain his place-in-line (to the Presidency).

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"I’m looking at a piece by Joe Connesin at salon.com, who writes, “Watching her husband embrace the president in the new commercial must be distressing to Cindy McCain whose former dependence to prescription drugs was highlighted in an anonymous campaign leaflets the night before the South Carolina primary. Before anyone knew that Rush Limbaugh would make addiction fashionable on the far right. According to Newsweek‘s inside account of the campaign, she began sobbing loudly while watching the returns that sank McCain’s campaign. Trying to soothe her, her husband said, ‘Think of how the Bushes felt two weeks ago in New Hampshire,’ where Bush had unexpectedly lost the primary. Between her sobs, she replied, ‘We never called his wife a weirdo.’ The assault on McCain’s family didn’t spare Bridget, the litte girl they’d adopted from a Mother Theresa orphanage in Bangladesh. In the mouths of anonymous quote ‘push pollers,’ who called Republican voters across South Carolina to smear the maverick reformer, Bridget was transformed into an illegitimate black baby, a variation on Bill Clinton’s mythical black son. Christian conservatives eagerly spread baseless rumors that McCain had consorted with prostitutes, another old Clinton-bashing smear, and that he was also homosexual.” So very interesting, now insiders saying that McCain’s dislike of Bush is legendary and of course going back to this time 2000."

"For many, the past eight years have been a disheartening display of McCain’s willingness to sacrifice his credentials in order to please the Republican elite. The edge that McCain once brought – a willingness to take on corporate corruption, lobbyist influence, and the charlatans of the Evangelical movement — has been dulled by a complacency in being a Bush sycophant, willing to suck down the fumes from a disastrous war, an exceedingly unpopular immigration policy, and economically hobbling tax cuts while Bush speeds away from Pennsylvania Avenue. In essence, the media darling turned into another Bush crony, willing to stoop to new and unnecessary lows in a vain attempt to jockey to be the next Commander in Chief. The McCain implosion is one of his own doing, the consequence of doing business in Washington and misreading the Bush orthodoxy as the key to the White House.

 

[mears]

John McCain is a garden-variety Opportunist....who'll tolerate ANYTHING, to maintain his place-in-line (to the Presidency).

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Do you consider Hillary Clinton an opportunist?

Can you put it in your own words?

 

[mears]

Can I ask what it is about him that has made you want to give him your support?

Sure, his record as a govenour was solid, he saved the Olympic games in Salt Lake City from ruin, he made money in the business world. I think he will hold the line on taxes, is a free trader, will push the privitization of social security, cut the growth of medicare, etc...

I could go on and on.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do you consider Hillary Clinton an opportunist?

Can you put it in your own words?

Hell....Hillary doesn't need to be an Opportunist!

Team Clinton is a PROVEN-product!!

(....And, they have the endorsements to prove it!)

 

[goldenecitrone]

Sure, his record as a govenour was solid, he saved the Olympic games in Salt Lake City from ruin, he made money in the business world. I think he will hold the line on taxes, is a free trader, will push the privitization of social security, cut the growth of medicare, etc...

I could go on and on.

What's wrong with medicare?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What's wrong with medicare?

Really! The insurance-companies LOVE it!!!

Second, they made it illegal for the federal government to negotiate the price of drugs with manufacturers, despite the fact every other industrialized nation negotiates these prices. When the government does negotiate lower prices for bulk drug purchases, as does the Veterans Administration, it saves more than 40 percent compared to the market cost. Applied to Medicare, this would save about $560 billion over the first eight years of the program. The cost of the disastrous Medicare plan is even greater when the subsidies given to insurance companies are factored in.

 

[dilute micro]

he made money in the business world.

Well he's okay then.

 

[dilute micro]

What's wrong with medicare?

It'd be easier to answer what's right with it. The answer would be a lot shorter.

 

[mears]

What's wrong with medicare?

Nothing but if its not changed (i.e. benefits not curbed) it could blow up the federal budget.