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It depends on the job you are applying for, the CRB is not a pass/fail thing, it informs employers, its then up to them do decide if they want to take it into consideration. If it was many years ago, they may be lenient.

Does the CRB check give details of offences?My offence is an affray from my youth which I received a maximum sentence for(6 months)

Also I am a bit annoyed about this ''spent'' thing seen as your convictions are never really spent
 
You could always find out what's in your reference letter. I'm sure you don't need me to figure out how to do that.
 
Does the CRB check give details of offences?My offence is an affray from my youth which I received a maximum sentence for(6 months)

Also I am a bit annoyed about this ''spent'' thing seen as your convictions are never really spent

It will say what the offence was, when it happened and what the result was.
 
I don't think most employers would give a crap about an affray when you were fifteen - at the very least they would want to discuss it with you. Unless you're sixteen, of course...
 
I work in a primary school and we've had staff and volunteers enhanced-CRB checked and a few of them have a bit of previous. The deal seems to be that you disclose the details of anything that's likely to raise it's head. We've had possession, affray, taking and driving away, bunking fares on the bus, fraud, common assault, all disclosed and the CRB's that have come back saying that a record was found but based on the information given, does not prevent the person form undertaking the job.

The only one thrown out was when she didn't disclose when she submitted the form. You have to provide information and confirm twice that you give your permission for the check, and they take 6 weeks - 2 months to come through.
 
It's a major arse-covering exercise in the wake of the Soham murders - virtually everyone who sets foot in the school has to be checked, and we need a great big fat visible file to wave in front of everyone to prove that we've taken every step we can to protect our children. There's a List 99 search too, which lists everyone who committed a crime while working in an educational establishment.

There's too many holes in it though, to be of any real use. There a 6-8 week delay in getting the details (plenty of time to go out on the rob) and we are only obliged by law to have it done every 4 years. It doesn't cover anywhere outside Europe in the main, and can't handle cultures with multiple names. Also bearing in mind that the vast, vast majority of child abusers have never been accused, let alone convicted, it's a bit of an empty exercise.

The only value it might have is to deter those with convictions...trouble is that it probably deters those with little tiny convictions for nothing very much, and they might be the sort of people we'd like to have.
 
It's a major arse-covering exercise in the wake of the Soham murders - virtually everyone who sets foot in the school has to be checked, and we need a great big fat visible file to wave in front of everyone to prove that we've taken every step we can to protect our children. There's a List 99 search too, which lists everyone who committed a crime while working in an educational establishment.

There's too many holes in it though, to be of any real use. There a 6-8 week delay in getting the details (plenty of time to go out on the rob) and we are only obliged by law to have it done every 4 years. It doesn't cover anywhere outside Europe in the main, and can't handle cultures with multiple names. Also bearing in mind that the vast, vast majority of child abusers have never been accused, let alone convicted, it's a bit of an empty exercise.

The only value it might have is to deter those with convictions...trouble is that it probably deters those with little tiny convictions for nothing very much, and they might be the sort of people we'd like to have.

Spot on Ceej.
 
The only value it might have is to deter those with convictions...trouble is that it probably deters those with little tiny convictions for nothing very much, and they might be the sort of people we'd like to have.

My old boss used to say it doesn't get rid of child abusers, just breeds smart ones.

One thing I would like to see is to make it more transferable. At the moment if you volunteer for several organisations, they each have to do one and normally the volunteer pays.
 
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