Wookey
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Snob! Who are you to decide whether this is any good? Lots of people watch it and people wouldn't watch it if it wasn't crap.
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How unfortunate.
Joan Rivers swears live on Loose Women
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How unfortunate.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I dunno I reckon there's a fair few lesbians and hetro men that love loose women too...
Johnny Canuck3
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You think being gay is about 'taking it up the butt'?
I'm not sure about 'about', but I think that taking it up the butt has its place in there somewhere.
Johnny Canuck3
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Johnny Canuck3
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that post is wrong on so many levels,
the minute a guy takes it up the butt
.........doesn't necessarily make him gay
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Gawrsh: ya think?
Are there no shows/films/tv shows/musicians etc that you can say you've probably got to be gay or a woman to get then? I have yet to meet a straight man who likes Kylie, for instance, but I have met plenty of gay men and women who do.
Obviously not all gay men are Kylie liking fucking idiots (I really hate her) as you get plenty of gay men who describe themselves as "straight acting" but isn't that equally as big a generalisation as talking about "things that the gays like"?
Just throwing that out there, not confessing to a deep rooted hatred of all gay men or supression of my own homosexuality or anything like that. I'm sure that plenty of people will want to do that for me.
Obviously not all gay men are Kylie liking fucking idiots (I really hate her) as you get plenty of gay men who describe themselves as "straight acting" but isn't that equally as big a generalisation as talking about "things that the gays like"?
Just throwing that out there, not confessing to a deep rooted hatred of all gay men or supression of my own homosexuality or anything like that. I'm sure that plenty of people will want to do that for me.
Johnny Canuck3
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Bizarre.
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
There's something about mouthy women that appeals to many gay men especially - it's the diva attraction, the reason why half of Joan Rivers' audience is gay men. Both gay men and bolshy, forthright women are contradicting the behaviour mainstream society would prefer them to have, which is to be dominated, rather than dominant.
Female gay icons tend not to be shrinking violets, they tend to be Madonnas and Joan Collins and Chers. The type of women who would be invited on Loose Women. That's why I think Loose Women has a queer appeal.
I like Loose Women because the women on it tend to be honest, even if they are being honest about their dreadful love lives, or the fact they drink too much, or just honest about their own bitchiness. That's cool, imo. I'm aware that women like that make many straight men feel uncomfortable, because women like that tend to have rather withering views of what most straight men add up to, which isn't a great deal, let's face it.
Johnny Canuck3
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There's something about mouthy women that appeals to many gay men especially - it's the diva attraction, the reason why half of Joan Rivers' audience is gay men. Both gay men and bolshy, forthright women are contradicting the behaviour mainstream society would prefer them to have, which is to be dominated, rather than dominant.
Female gay icons tend not to be shrinking violets, they tend to be Madonnas and Joan Collins and Chers. The type of women who would be invited on Loose Women. That's why I think Loose Women has a queer appeal.
I like Loose Women because the women on it tend to be honest, even if they are being honest about their dreadful love lives, or the fact they drink too much, or just honest about their own bitchiness. That's cool, imo. I'm aware that women like that make many straight men feel uncomfortable, because women like that tend to have rather withering views of what most straight men add up to, which isn't a great deal, let's face it.
It may be true that gay men might like Joan Rivers, but it's a bit presumptuous to say that only gay men 'get' her, or 'get' Kylie, etc. It's just another form of prejudice.
I don't agree that only gay men like Kylie. Maybe in your country, but it's so much more macho there, innit?
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
I think it's great that you've obviously thought about it, and are prepared to talk about it, rather than having a knee-jerk defensive reaction and hiding your fragile ego behind bum-sex and references thereto.
Johnny Canuck3
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I think it's great that you've obviously thought about it, and are prepared to talk about it, rather than having a knee-jerk defensive reaction and hiding your fragile ego behind bum-sex and references thereto.
It's to be hoped that some don't have such a fragile ego that they can't recognize certain comments for what they are, and therefore wilt under the cut and thrust of spirited discussion.
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
I didn't say only gay men get Joan Rivers or Kylie, but I think gay men and strong women share an affinity. That came out as 'I think you have to be gay to get Loose Women' - but of course there might be straight men who like it, and gay men who don't, I am not sure because I haven't done a national poll of Loose Women opinions and cross-referenced contributors sexualities.
Give me some leaway, love, please.
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
It's to be hoped that some don't have such a fragile ego that they can't recognize certain comments for what they are, and therefore wilt under the cut and thrust of spirited discussion.
Not wilting, bending, like a reed in the wind.
Johnny Canuck3
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I didn't say only gay men get Joan Rivers or Kylie, but I think gay men and strong women share an affinity. That came out as 'I think you have to be gay to get Loose Women' - but of course there might be straight men who like it, and gay men who don't, I am not sure because I haven't done a national poll of Loose Women opinions and cross-referenced contributors sexualities.
Give me some leaway, love, please.
I don't think there are many shows on mainstream network tv that aren't intellectually available to a fairly broad range of people. That way ratings lie.
I think people share an affinity, including some gay men with weak women, etc. I know successful gay businessmen and professionals who have everything in common with their peers, except for their choice of sleeping partner.
Johnny Canuck3
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Well, you'll last longer than the mighty oak that way...
Johnny Canuck3
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Btw, I do in fact write for a living, or at least, it's a major component of what I do.
But that was a different thread, wasn't it?
But that was a different thread, wasn't it?
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
Btw, I do in fact write for a living, or at least, it's a major component of what I do.
But that was a different thread, wasn't it?
Intriguing that you would feel the need to assert that.
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
How could you like that programme, Wookey?
I like Jane McDonald, because I've met her and she's lovely, we did a Walk for Life together. And I like the Southerner with the drink problem, and I like the Nolan because she's got a wicked sense of humour.
Oh, and I like Tim Healey's wife coz I've got pissed with her at a Mr Gay UK final and she was a great lady, and I like the comedienne who used to be on Corrie coz I like funny women.
I could go on, and I'm not going to be made to feel ashamed for liking Loose Women. I like Dairylea too, and Toblerone, and chippy teas and Yop, and all manner of useless things that aren't neccesarily good for you.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Your reductionist attitude most certainly is.
I was snoozing at my friend's house and caught this prog today..well, half listening to it and havent seen it for AGES partly cos my tv doesnt pick up ITV and partly cos, well, sadly jobs and all that get in the way.
Today they were yapping on about riveting subjects such as ''should men pay on a first date'' and gigolos. It was like eavesdropping in some bored housewives inane babblings in a cafe or on the bus or something. I had to turn it off.
Today they were yapping on about riveting subjects such as ''should men pay on a first date'' and gigolos.
It was like eavesdropping in some bored housewives inane babblings in a cafe or on the bus or something. I had to turn it off.
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
Exactly, that's why I love it. It's just women feeling very relaxed talking shite. I think that's fab.
anything to keep one's self in the public eye, eh? 
anything to keep one's self in the public eye, eh?
There's loads easier ways to keep yourself in the public eye without having to meet Coleen Nolan though. If Joan Rivers took a shit in the middle of the day on a busy street, it would probably still be, at least, page seven news.
come on, we're talking about a woman whose husband took his own life...poor sod, he must have been living a nightmare
Johnny Canuck3
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Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
Not intriguing at all: my feelings were hurt.
I think it's intriguing that your feelings were hurt. Do you see yourself as a writer?
Johnny Canuck3
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Do you see yourself as a psychoanalyst?
I have not written and published a novel, although I have co authored a non fiction work that is more of a manual than anything. I'm probably responsible for about 100 pages of 'copy' per month, if not more.
I'm not a 'writer' if one associates the term with some sort of initiate into a special guild or priesthood, but I do write for a living. Communication is how I earn a living, as opposed to bricklaying or planting peonies.
Is that a 'writer'?
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