Johnny Canuck3
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Apparently OJ was also just a manufactured image, one that was quite different from what the man turned out to be.
Jian Ghomeshi
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Apparently OJ was also just a manufactured image, one that was quite different from what the man turned out to be.
Buckaroo
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But Klein's takedown was in 1992?
Now there's more to back it up.
At least he could do something brilliantly well though. Unlike Ghomeshi there was something substantial behind his fame.
That's got nothing to do with any sexual allegations. It's just that he was a twat.
It's going to make people less reluctant to refrain from getting the knives out if they remember what Klein said.
Legally "I never liked the man" should be irrelevant; in practice, it takes a certain mindset to concentrate on merely what a defendant is accused of having done, instead of letting thoughts of whether you'd want to work or socialise with them creep in.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
Twenty years transformation from twat to twitter. No smoke etc
Johnny Canuck3
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Admittedly, you never heard the radio program that he hosted before the scandal broke. Many people in this country thought that he was very good at what he did.
Not sure I'm the right person to start it off, weirdly googling Cosby and Joyce dale who filed civil proceedings on behalf of four women after criminal proceedings were not initiated brings up a notice saying
no information about the proceedings,verdict or if it was settled out of court,which i suspect it might have with some sort of confidentiality agreement perhaps? never seen that dpl disclaimer before though.
I'd heard of him and was very familiar with his show - he was a good interviewer (apart from when he got all mouthy with Nigella Lawson and misunderstood what she was saying, accusing her of being anti-men, although she politely corrected him and smoothed it over...). Actually, I emailed a Canadian friend about that incident a few months ago and commented that he must have a temper problem.
I've been following the whole Jian Ghomeshi thing and have written a lot about it on Facebook. Left it alone here as I didnt think folks woulda heard of him...
Guilty as hell..... Disappointed, angered and saddened about the whole thing. Here is a very good opinion piece from a Canadian comedienne which sums up how I feel
http://www.straight.com/blogra/765071/q-weekly-guest-elvira-kurt-posts-rant-about-ghomeshi-scandal
I've been following the whole Jian Ghomeshi thing and have written a lot about it on Facebook. Left it alone here as I didnt think folks woulda heard of him...
Guilty as hell..... Disappointed, angered and saddened about the whole thing. Here is a very good opinion piece from a Canadian comedienne which sums up how I feel
http://www.straight.com/blogra/765071/q-weekly-guest-elvira-kurt-posts-rant-about-ghomeshi-scandal
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good point,
Can this man's reputation be salvaged? DON'T THINK SO BRUV
http://www.thestar.com/life/2014/11/19/can_jian_ghomeshi_salvage_his_reputation.html
http://www.thestar.com/life/2014/11/19/can_jian_ghomeshi_salvage_his_reputation.html
Procrastinator
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Wow, that I didn't know! I was following the case because the behaviour described by the women has chilling similarities to an ex-boyfriend of mine. That one also happened to be my terrible warning about feminist men.
Procrastinator
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Yes, except it can often be more complicated than that. How do we know the women he filmed actually consented and how does consent come across in a scene depicting sexual violence anyway? There's also the power aspect. Think I read some of the women say they went along with a bit of it at first because he was famous and charming, because they didn't want to rock the boat or were afraid of him?
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Procrastinator
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Having read up a bit on this kind of thing in the past, my guess is that part - the taking women by surprise - was part of the thrill for him. And yes, arrogance or probably some kind of narcissism - his own needs are far too important to bother finding out what other people want.
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Procrastinator
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Bloody hell. Exactly the kind of tweet that could have attracted a fair bit of female interest in him. Wonder if that was him deliberately pretending to be someone he's really not via social media or what?And all the time he was coming up with stuff like this:
Interesting choice of a first post. How many of your exes at least tried not to be sexist, even if they didn't claim to be feminists?
Idris2002
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Ghomeshi has now surrendered himself to the authorities, who have charged him:
http://jezebel.com/ghomeshi-surrenders-to-police-after-being-charged-with-1663699381
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Johnny Canuck3
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He's hired a prominent Toronto criminal defence lawyer to represent him.
He can engage who he damn well pleases - I hope he gets an extremely fair trial and is found guilty at the end of it.
Procrastinator
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Ok, now you mention it, can see that coming in with something milder is usually the done thing! But I've been reading lots of these posts since I started working night shifts whilst half-asleep (and I'm also pretty rubbish at small talk in any case). One I think. Though most of the others didn't see themselves as sexist, he was the only one that didn't become either defensive or dismissive when called out about sexism (and probably no coincidence that the least sexist equalled the longest relationship). Biggest thing for me, though, is that actions are much more important than words. I'm very wary of men who say all the 'right things' about women/gender these days. It's how they behave that actually matters.
Procrastinator
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On the subject of abusive men, best book I ever read was 'Why does he do that?', which was written by a man (!) who spent many years working with them and studying how they operate. He's quite critical of the role that psychologists have played in getting us to see these men as essentially hurt children (possibly too critical) and dispels lots of common myths about male abuse (like that it's caused by things like alcohol).
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Anyway, this case has finally come to court:
The Jian Ghomeshi trial: What you’ve missed in court so far
Looks like the Trailer Park Boys actress who was one of his accusers faced some tough questioning in court over the apparent fact that she corresponded with him after the alleged assaults took place.
I still think he's going down, though.
The Jian Ghomeshi trial: What you’ve missed in court so far
Looks like the Trailer Park Boys actress who was one of his accusers faced some tough questioning in court over the apparent fact that she corresponded with him after the alleged assaults took place.
I still think he's going down, though.
Hmm, it's going to be close I reckon. His lawyer is the shizzle. One to watch for sure.
Blimey: "Henein produced an email in court Friday that DeCoutere sent Ghomeshi on July 5, 2003, a day after the alleged assault. It read: “You kicked my ass last night and that makes me want to f--- your brain out. Tonight.”
This really could go either way I reckon.
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