Jewish Supremacism in the UN

[rachamim18]

Revol68: "Rachamim should remember the Zionist terror." Um, it was pre-statehood and had nothing to do with the state of Israel per se. Arabs iniated it in 20, Jews retaliated a full 16 years later in 36 and continued back and forth until 47. The Jewish mainstream rejected it and even turned in actors. You know, I take it you are new here. If so, that explains why you are not aware that I have talked on it plenty of times. If it was relevant to the discussion, meaning the fight in Lebanon maybe I would have iniated it again.

"Most Israels only see a 'Palestinian' down the end of an M4 Carbine." First off, we dont use them. Secondly, if you mean Arabs per se [as opposed to those from Gaza and the so called "West Bank"] almost 20% of our own population is Arab. If you do mean those from the so called "Territories," we also know them very well. Many from the so called "West Bank" still work in Israel proper. We see them everyday.


"Forced into refugee camps." noone forced anyone into any camos here. Secondly, Irish Catholics were not squatters on others land, Arabs are when it comes to this land. Still, they were offered more than half the land and more than half the arable land at the exact time the Jews were first offered their state. The Arabs refused it.

 

[revol68]

oh of course, that explains why the Lehi (or Stern gang as it is better known in Europe) was integrated into the IDF in 1948, it's members granted anmesty, and in 1980 the Israeli state issued the Lehi ribbon for ex members?

of course the real spectre that haunts Israel is the mass expulsions of 1948, which it still hasn't went anyway to coming to terms with, instead it seeks to externalise. It dehumanises the palestinians in order to regressively justify it's actions, like a cheap knock off production of Sartre's "Les Mains Sales".

 

[rachamim18]

Revol68: "Hezbollah cannot be beaten with military might." Sure they can. Their cause cannot be beaten but that is intangible. So what if others take their place. That means what? We should roll over for them because more will come. Do you prune your trees?

Tell me, why would you bring Holocaust victims into this discussion? Furthermore, why would you try to criticse me personally? Have you run out of intellectual steam so far as your so called beliefs go? Not suprising. still, please try to keep it above board.

Whom is Israel "occupying?" The so called "West Bank?" that is very debatable. For brevity's sake let us assume you are correct. Surely you are aware that Israel is leaving 96% of it in less than months and will offer the missing parcel out of Israel proper so that 100% is in the hands of the "Palestinians."

What else then? Golan? Syria exists in a perpetual state of declared war with Israel. Golan is a plateau overlooking Israel proper where someone, if they so wished [as syria did and acted on] could just drop bombs on Israel all day long. Still, should a secure and lasting peace ever seem possible [with syria], golan will be offered back.

Sheba'a Farms? this too is Syrian [not Lebanese] and will undoubtedly be tied to Golan.

"Israel as the best military." Assymentrical Warfare has nothing to do with that status. We got our teeth with it and are more at home in this environment. I am not a tanker, I am Infantry. I am speaking from subjective experience when I offer that Hezbollah has no hope. The civilians they hid behind are almost all out of the zone. The numbers are about to begin soaring.

What "hiding evidence" are you on about? In case you haven't taken notice, the press is in the field on both sides. There are no secrets.

Bluestreak: "UN Resolutions." most of them have been nonsense authored by parties that never accepted the Resolution that recognised Israel's existence. Why in the world would Israel follow the non-binding dictates of nations technically at war with it that have never even recognised its existence? The idea is ludicrous.

ZAMB: "30 years of civil war." In comparison to Israel, yes it is a joke. Just as what Israelis are going thorugh is a joke compared to blacks in Dafur, or Rwandans.

"If Rachamim was really heartbroken over the plight of non-combatant Lebanese caught in the cross-fire he would become a "refusenik." No he would not. What does my feeling empathy [wait, someone else said i don't-sic] have to do with defending my nation against people sworn [and attempting] to destroy it? I blame Hezbollah for their plight, not my nation. Yes, Israeli bombs ARE the ultimate cause of their suffering in the scenario you have picked to describe, BUT the Israeli bombs are only eradicating the threat of Hezbollah in a confrontation that Hezbollah iniated.

Nino: Please do not try and derail this thread with subjects bearing no relation to it. I have told you in the past, if soemthing is on your mind, p.m. it. Thanks.

When did I EVER say the problem in northern Ireland began in the 1960s? It began when it was invaded by the English many centuries ago. Happy?

Aside from your other ad homs, why would you suggest I would claim Israel has the Creator on its side? I am not religious Nino and you as a regular poster here should know this well. Please stop with the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Olmert and Netanyahu are also secular Jews. Gold is religious.

TAE: The IDF is the army of Israel. Israel is a secular nation with no official religion. It does not need [but does make use of] American weapons.

Dandred: I have adressed Un Resolutions AGAINST Israel plenty of times. You must not check this board too much.

 

[nino_savatte]

Nino: Please do not try and derail this thread with subjects bearing no relation to it. I have told you in the past, if soemthing is on your mind, p.m. it. Thanks.

When did I EVER say the problem in northern Ireland began in the 1960s? It began when it was invaded by the English many centuries ago. Happy?

Aside from your other ad homs, why would you suggest I would claim Israel has the Creator on its side? I am not religious Nino and you as a regular poster here should know this well. Please stop with the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

Olmert and Netanyahu are also secular Jews. Gold is religious.

Rachamim: please stop trying to demonise me. Nothing that I have posted on this thread is irrelevant. You just don't have either the guts or the honesty to deal with my points.

You keep showing your ignorance of Ireland, time and time again. I haven't made any "ad homs" either, Rach...that's you beiing dishonest and trying to sideline me.

Olmert, Netanyahu and Gold are all dyed in the wool Jabotinsky-ites, where did I say Olmert and Netanyahu were religious? I didn't, you're lying again.

Oh and you have made comments along the lines of "Jews have a right to the land because 'we've beeen there for 2000 years". If that isn't a line that has come straight out of a religious text, i don;t know what is.

Stop lying and stop weasling.