Jean Charles de Menezes inquest: officers "not at fault"
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Fucking filthy cunts.
coley
Well-Known Member
Justice for the 'establishment' as ever.
coley
Well-Known Member
The establishment elite aren't going to hang out their protective attack dogs out to dry are they?
weltweit
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Going back to basics, and ignoring the fact that they executed an innocent man after he had reached a position where were he a bomber he could have taken out a tube train, their intelligence was clearly faulty in the first instance in that they were tracking an electrician who had no links to terrorism and no bomb or bomb making equipment.
They weren't tracking him. They were looking for another man who I think lived in the same block of flats whose ID card had been found in a rucksack at the site of the 7/7 bombings. Or something. I'm a bit hazy. They also didn't know that the door they were watching that De Menezes left his home to go to work by was the entry to a block of flats and not a single residence.
weltweit
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That does not really make it much better. They were looking out for suspicious person A, so when person B emerges they follow, fail to apprehend person B in a safe place but manage eventually to kill them on a packed tube train in a situation where a real suicide bomber would have killed countless people.
Sirena
Don't monkey with the buzzsaw
.. and the surveillance officer whose job it was to identify their target if he left the building was supposedly relieving himself at the time an unidentified man left this block of flats....
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
If they thought he was a suicide bomber then surely they should have stopped him before he boarded a bus let alone a tube. The whole operation was a complete cock-up & those responsible have been promoted rather than prosecuted.
Will a policeman ever be prosecuted for killing someone? I doubt it.
Shoot to kill seems very much in force. There are many policeman who will now think they have a licence to kill.
Will a policeman ever be prosecuted for killing someone? I doubt it.
Shoot to kill seems very much in force. There are many policeman who will now think they have a licence to kill.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
ECHR
coley
Well-Known Member
Ta, long day
comrade spurski
Well-Known Member
which is bollocks OP KRATOS the tactics
In extreme situations, the policy recommends that covert police officers fire on suspected suicide attackers without warning, aiming multiple shots at the brain stem to minimise the risk of detonation of a bomb.
Operation Kratos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
if they were identifying and issuing warnings then they were using different rules and have no excuse really.
or armed plod were "confused" about what they were doing and made a complete hash of things
Imo the issue is the cover up...if the Police had shot the wrong person by genuine mistake due to poor surveillance, the stress of an individual officer, incompetence etc. then they could have simply said so.
But instead the immediately set about a cover up which included lying about his behaviour, what he was wearing, him ignoring instructions, him being a criminal, him being an illegal immigrant, losing the cctv footage etc.
The scary thing is they lied, lied some more and continued lying...and they have gotten away with it...again.
The lies were not a mistake or a bad decision. They were a cover up and all involved should have been jailed for abuse of public office, for perversion of justice and should have been sacked.
The fact that this has not happened in the past 11 years shows how little justice matters to the the police, CPS, the courts and politicians.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
So you don't think the shooting was a mistake due to surveillance fuck-ups?
Why do you think they shot him?
comrade spurski
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That's not what I said...or at least I don't think it was...and that's not what I meant so apologies if it was unclear...been long day for an old git like me!
I was responding to the post about the policy saying police should shoot to kill suicide bombers.
That's why I said that I stated that the lies and the attempted cover up was the issue. They run those type of investigations after plane crashes to find out what went wrong procedurally and with the human interactions which helps to prevent similar accidents happening again.
If they had immediately said that it was a tragic mistake then it could have been properly investigated and the reason for an innocent man being targeted could have been discovered.
The deception that took place shows that they did not give a shit about his life, their mistakes or justice.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Go away ninj. I think your choice to try this on this particular thread says all we need to know about you.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
The ECtHR has nothing to do with the EU. Don't fall for UKIP spin of linking the two.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
they do it every time. WWe've seen it repeated a few times over recent years from duggan to tomlinson. The lie machine goes into overdrive and their mates in the press run with it
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Up the arse. With a cricket bat!!!
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Gold commander should have come forward and admitted it was her call she made the wrong one.
Shit happens nobody has a crystal ball so mistakes will happen especially under pressure and if they involve guns and potential suicide bombers any cock up is going to be bad.
The initial reports might be wrong people speaking before they have been properly briefed etc etc.
but within 48 hours a full apology and an offer of resignation should have happened the fact it didn't and the met offered a defence of the undefendable says rather a lot.
Shit happens nobody has a crystal ball so mistakes will happen especially under pressure and if they involve guns and potential suicide bombers any cock up is going to be bad.
The initial reports might be wrong people speaking before they have been properly briefed etc etc.
but within 48 hours a full apology and an offer of resignation should have happened the fact it didn't and the met offered a defence of the undefendable says rather a lot.
coley
Well-Known Member
I hadn't, just late of night response,
coley
Well-Known Member
Some of them, agreed, but let's not put all of them in the Met collective?
And for the for the cricket punishment Willow and hickory are smooth types of wood, Larch and most pines would be more suitable
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