Jay Z on Jools
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girasol
Addicted to handstands!
Because people like his songs?
I'm not a fan myself but that is a brilliant tune!
Let's face it, Bridget Kelly steals the show.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
'yep, flow' would have been more accurate - combination of lyrics and delivery
kained&able
Here for the football.
no no just delivery and cadence.
don't get me wrong he ain't little jon or anything but really his lyricsm is almost non existent.
dave
don't get me wrong he ain't little jon or anything but really his lyricsm is almost non existent.
dave
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Is that definitive k&a, should I write that down?
kained&able
Here for the football.
Yep.
No head will cite jay-z as an example of lyricsim in rap. Even fools who actually like him.
No head will cite jay-z as an example of lyricsim in rap. Even fools who actually like him.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I know fuck all about it but it's accessible to white boy me because it's got a quality hook, a very neat soundscape and doesn't do the whole bedroom gangsta niggarz/bitches/homo thing. I don't know if it's even 'rap' by most definitions.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
TrippyLondoner
Well-Known Member
Fuckin hate it when rappers use either of those words too much, and they so often do.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
They don't say that stuff to "keep it real", they say it cos it makes it easier for the massive conglomerates that publish their music to market it to suburban dwelling white folk, i.e. the 70% of the hip hop market.
p.s. this thread should be renamed "Bridget Kelly on Jools".
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
I agree with this, Bridget Kelly was amazing.
Thought it would have been better without Jay Z. I couldn't understand what he was saying.
kained&able
Here for the football.
Jay-z would never do a song bout bitches and ho's and has never uttered the word nigga in his life.
He would never do that. Ever.
Sick beat though.
dave
He would never do that. Ever.
Sick beat though.
dave
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
Everyone over 17 knows that!Dave: Capdown are shit
(however I only realised when I was about 22)
Having seen them do it live at Ally Pally on Wednesday, agree. She was fucking immense.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
T I think i'm a bit in love with BeeKay
Have a look at this:
http://www.rap-up.com/2009/09/18/video-jay-z-performs-on-jonathan-ross/
ETA: Just finished watching that to the end. They must have had some of the old sleazy ToTP cameramen working for Woss as there's lots of shots of her bubble.
Got any evidence ot back that up?
Can't believe there's a hip hop/race debate being gently mooted on here; very sad - should we have separate entrances to HMV and burn any white people not buying regulation indie records?
A central tenet of the genre is that it unifies and transcends circumstance and pigeonholing it along racial lines has always been a stupid and pretty much overtly racist thing to do. Why not object to white people liking Motown? So much of what Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye sang about could be interpreted as appealing only to a black, poor, American audience but it doesn't. Same with, say, Nina Simone. Or why not have a go at Indian kids who like metal, say? Art doesn't have an ethnicity once it's out there; it's to be appreciated by whoever appreciates it in whatever circumstances.
A central tenet of the genre is that it unifies and transcends circumstance and pigeonholing it along racial lines has always been a stupid and pretty much overtly racist thing to do. Why not object to white people liking Motown? So much of what Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye sang about could be interpreted as appealing only to a black, poor, American audience but it doesn't. Same with, say, Nina Simone. Or why not have a go at Indian kids who like metal, say? Art doesn't have an ethnicity once it's out there; it's to be appreciated by whoever appreciates it in whatever circumstances.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
Anyone trying to make me buy regulation indie records is in for some serious trouble.
Well, serious moaning, anyway.
Well, serious moaning, anyway.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
It's hardly a major secret that the majority of purchasers of hip hop are white - figures tend to vary between 60 and 70% - so one would assume that the marketing of the genre would be geared toward that demographic.
Sad Ken - look, I'm white and I've bought and DJed hip hop for years. My point wasn't about who should or shouldn't buy the genre, it was that the negative aspects associated with it that other posters have alluded to are as much to do with commerical packaging to people who live outside "the hood experience" than any sense "of keeping it real". To put it simply, the overwhemingly white hip hop audience are more likely to buy 50 Cent the Gangstar as opposed to 50 Cent the Successful Buisnessman.
chazegee
Number two.
Great Documentary. You're forgetting that the number one rapper is a Kanye, who was college educated (dropout) and anti conflict gems, violence etc etc.
Fictionist
Serving Eargasms....
Great Documentary. You're forgetting that the number one rapper is a Kanye, who was college educated (dropout) and anti conflict gems, violence etc etc.
The number one what?
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