James Dyson whines about employment law and corporation tax

[ViolentPanda]

His sole 'invention' was a fucking ball, instead of a wheel on a wheel barrow. That's it. A fucking ballbarrow. It was rubbish...but hey, innovation. And on a personal front, sweetheart's father was much closer to Tom Dyson, (brother) since James had always been a detestable whining cunt who has been putting out the 'idle Brit worker theme' since forever.

James Dyson, when I see him on TV, makes me think of every cokehead I've had the misfortune to have to listen to: Whiny, self-centred and egotistic.

 

[Poi E]

That Ineos chief Jim Ratcliffe is another self-entitled technical twat.

 

[BemusedbyLife]

Good chance if someone has a Dyson vac they have a brabantia kitchen bin.

My mum has a Dyson one of those lumpy little pull around ones that looks like a half-sized R2D2 but rest assured knowing what I know now, I will recommend she gets a Henry next time, the shock of me even knowing what a vacuum cleaner is will probably persuade her anyway.
As far as I know we don't have a brabantia bin (not that I would recognise one) but what's the reasoning behind your assertion?

 

[ViolentPanda]

No-one knows the details of the Dyson electric car. For all I know it could fly as well.

Now that, I'd pay to see. I'd be worried that it was made from crap materials, but I'd still pay to see a flying car!

 

[equationgirl]

An acquaintance who repairs washing machines, reckons the Dyson ones are badly made, and that the electronics are ill thought out, and mounted on a wafer-thin circuit board (.8mm, apparently) that cracks under the repeat vibration from spinning. £80 for a new circuit board, plus £55-110 for his time. Most other brands of washing machine use 2.5mm thick circuit boards.

Personally I'm surprised any of the Dyson washing machines are still going at all.

 

[Poi E]

My mum has a Dyson one of those lumpy little pull around ones that looks like a half-sized R2D2 but rest assured knowing what I know now, I will recommend she gets a Henry next time, the shock of me even knowing what a vacuum cleaner is will probably persuade her anyway.
As far as I know we don't have a brabantia bin (not that I would recognise one) but what's the reasoning behind your assertion?

No reasoning pure bollocks.

 

[equationgirl]

Yeah his plastics are shit.

There was an interesting section in his autobiography about how he chose the plastics to be virtually indestructible and how many prototypes he went through trying to find the best one.

I'm under no illusion that the same materials are currently used.

I don't have his autobiography anymore, think I got rid of it when he got rid of his manufacturing in the UK.

 

[Poi E]

What bollocks. He thought he could do better than Dow, Exxon, BASF etc.

 

[equationgirl]

What bollocks. He thought he could do better than Dow, Exxon, BASF etc.

He thinks he still can.

When it all goes wrong he'll be OK, but his thousands of workers won't be.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Good chance if someone has a Dyson vac they have a brabantia kitchen bin.

Geri
We know (legendarily) about the - dented - Brabantia bin, but do you have a Dyson vac?

 

[cybershot]

Pro Brexit James strikes again.

Dyson to build electric car in Singapore

No doubt most of his UK workforce as well receives a business tax break by no doubt declaring most of his work force as 'R&D'

A massive loop hole used by many companies to get out of big business tax bills.

 

[skyscraper101]

His vacuum cleaners suck.

 

[Poi E]

No they don't. They're shit.

An Air Fury hand drier shits all over his stuff, too.

 

[salem]

Pro Brexit James strikes again.

Dyson to build electric car in Singapore

No doubt most of his UK workforce as well receives a business tax break by no doubt declaring most of his work force as 'R&D'

A massive loop hole used by many companies to get out of big business tax bills.

The R&D scheme in general is a good thing, however it is misused a lot and in the case like this where the jobs to actually build shit go overseas anyway seems a bit pointless.

IIRC it works to give you a tax break but actually can be used not just to take money off your companies tax bill but to get a cash rebate if you aren't paying tax. I've done some R&D work for a company before and it's debatable how much use to the world the work I was doing was as the company was a bit of a folly - and the money coming in from HMRC in the form of these R&D credits was a significant part of the funding.

 

[2hats]

No they don't. They're shit.

An Air Fury hand drier shits all over his stuff, too.

Kangarillo for the win!

 

[weltweit]

I am disappointed about the decision to build the car abroad, I suppose it may turn out that the car is more suited to eastern markets than the UK, but still, what does it say to uk workers?

 

[mauvais]

WTF does Dyson think he can bring to the car business anyway?

 

[8ball]

WTF does Dyson think he can bring to the car business anyway?

They can clean the road as they go.

 

[Sue]

I am disappointed about the decision to build the car abroad, I suppose it may turn out that the car is more suited to eastern markets than the UK, but still, what does it say to uk workers?

That Dyson believes he'll make more money if he builds it abroad? Which is hardly a new phenomenon.

 

[mauvais]

They can clean the road as they go.

Won't make up for the parts that fall off.

Seriously, building cars is hard. Tesla are evidence of this in action, as is the absence of a Google or Apple car. Existing car companies spend more than Dyson's Singapore investment just to produce a new model based on existing ones, and they have reusability and partnerships up to their eyes. Then (if this is the idea) breaking into Asian automotive markets, particularly China, is also hard - big global manufacturers are failing at it. So I've no idea what Dyson thinks he's going to do but I think it's unlikely to be anything other than an expensive failure. Perhaps there is no car and it's all some tax dodge exercise.

TL;DR pretty much the last thing the world needs is another newbie car manufacturer.

 

[8ball]

The chinese are certainly learning that building cars isn’t easy.

 

[mauvais]

The chinese are certainly learning that building cars isn’t easy.

They've only just started in earnest. You need to be a global player with scale on your side and all the rest. Geely do an excellent job with Volvo.

Lots of worldwide manufacturers based their growth plans around China and then had to massively revise that downwards because it turned out to be really difficult - protectionism, IP theft, not understanding the market, etc etc.

 

[8ball]

Yep, I’m reasonably up to speed on that. Can’t see this Dyson car happening unless he partners with someone.

 

[skyscraper101]