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Firky

The first of the gang
Banned
Shit. How many times have you pointed out something like that? :D

(Brilliant album btw, you'd hate it though :( )
 

Firky

The first of the gang
Banned
That's a quality song, you hear samples of the guitar all over other dancehall and jungle tunes. I was amazed to hear Dr Alimantado in the film Hancock! :eek:
 

ymu

Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
I'm saying its a reasonable possibility to assert actually, given his skippin his way to a world record and all!
No, it's not. Not at all. What you are saying is that every great performance is automatically suspect. Taint them all by their success.

You can't go throwing around these sorts of accusations without evidence. And there is no evidence against Bolt - indeed the evidence is that any accusation of drugs is laughable. Anyone who implicates Bolt outs themselves immediately as an anti-drug hysteric and ignorant bigot. Here's why:

1. As JTG has pointed out, Bolt ran 20.2 in the 200m when he was 15 years old. He just set a WR of 19.3, an improvement of 0.9 seconds in 7 years. Hardly suspicious.

2. He cannot have been using the usual sprinter cocktail of steroids and EPO etc to build muscle - because he has no muscles. Linford Christie used drugs to get bulky - Bolt clearly does not:



3. If he's not using drugs to build explosive muscle power - what is he using them for? Is he drinking rocket fuel and lighting his farts on the start line? What conceivable kind of drug could be used in the off-season to produce these results?


So, in summary, you're an idiot. :)
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
No, it's not. Not at all. What you are saying is that every great performance is automatically suspect. Taint them all by their success.

You can't go throwing around these sorts of accusations without evidence. And there is no evidence against Bolt - indeed the evidence is that any accusation of drugs is laughable. Anyone who implicates Bolt outs themselves immediately as an anti-drug hysteric and ignorant bigot. Here's why:

1. As JTG has pointed out, Bolt ran 20.2 in the 200m when he was 15 years old. He just set a WR of 19.3, an improvement of 0.9 seconds in 7 years. Hardly suspicious.

2. He cannot have been using the usual sprinter cocktail of steroids and EPO etc to build muscle - because he has no muscles. Linford Christie used drugs to get bulky - Bolt clearly does not:



3. If he's not using drugs to build explosive muscle power - what is he using them for? Is he drinking rocket fuel and lighting his farts on the start line? What conceivable kind of drug could be used in the off-season to produce these results?


So, in summary, you're an idiot. :)
He SKIPPED THE LAST 10 METRES and still broke the world record.

Of course its reasonable to assert as a possibility
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
Cos only blacks, from poor countries would cheat right?

Inverse racism, are you quite sure?:(
Dont know why you bother tbh. :D
Who said i'm bothered? :confused:

TBH I've just come home from an evening out and have a belly full of dinner to digest.

Reality = Not wanting to go to bed with a full stomach. :)
I love this back slapping affirmation of each others prejudice. You both don't like a certain suggestion so you start putting your blinkers on and back slapping each other like its going out of fashion.

I don't know why rational people bother to be honest.
 

TheHoodedClaw

acknowledging ur soup leg
It would go along the lines of :- How dare you even question that a black man from a poor country might have cheated?( despite the fact he skipped his way to a world record.)

Something like that maybe.
Usain Bolt is a freak of nature - much like Michael Johnson before him (although the body type is very different) - he's 6 foot 5 but he has the kind of fast twitch musculature that all great sprinters need combined with an enormously long stride. I'd love to see what he can do over 400m when he's a wee bit older, assuming he can sustain it over the longer distance.

ETA ach, quoted the wrong post, can't be bothered to change it though.
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
Usain Bolt is a freak of nature - much like Michael Johnson before him (although the body type is very different) - he's 6 foot 5 but he has the kind of fast twitch musculature that all great sprinters need combined with an enormously long stride. I'd love to see what he can do over 400m when he's a wee bit older, assuming he can sustain it over the longer distance.
If he doesn't fail a drug test in between. He's more Ben Johnston than Michael Johnson in my view.



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Frankly I cant be arsed arguing with inverse racism which has been displayed so clearly in this thread, so i think I will stay out of this thread!
 

Rutita1

Council Estate Socialist
I love this back slapping affirmation of each others prejudice. You both don't like a certain suggestion so you start putting your blinkers on and back slapping each other like its going out of fashion.

I don't know why rational people bother to be honest.
What prejudice? :confused:

Rational people have had a belly full of the endless insinuations, borderline racist comments and downright stupid things that have been said, so we choose to use humour to relieve the frustration. :)
 

ymu

Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
He SKIPPED THE LAST 10 MINUTES and still broke the world record.

Of course its reasonable to assert as a possibility
No it's not, it's not reasonable at all. He's been phenomenally fast since he was a young teenager, hasn't improved his times dramatically in 7 years and does not have the physique produced any known drug regimen for sprinters. It's completely unreasonable to accuse an athlete of cheating purely because they're winning.

(And you mean metres, not minutes. You're putting a lot of thought into these posts. Sure you shouldn't be posting on whatreallyhappened.com? They like frothy-mouthed stuff over there.)
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
What prejudice? :confused:

Rational people have had a belly full of the endless insinuations, borderline racist comments and downright stupid things that have been said, so we choose to use humour to relieve the frustration. :)
And there it is, criticising a black person in sport is racist, I wondered how long you would take.

I appreciative your illustration.

Pathetic!
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
No it's not, it's not reasonable at all. He's been phenomenally fast since he was a young teenager, hasn't improved his times dramatically in 7 years and does not have the physique produced any known drug regimen for sprinters. It's completely unreasonable to accuse an athlete of cheating purely because they're winning.

(And you mean metres, not minutes. You're putting a lot of thought into these posts. Sure you shouldn't be posting on whatreallyhappened.com? They like frothy-mouthed stuff over there.)
Yeah METRES im not awake yet.


Surely I should call you an idiot just to keep in with your wonderful style.
 

JTG

Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.
The guy's got an enormous stride, of course he's going to look like he's putting less effort in than the others.

As has been pointed out, he was freakishly quick while he was still in his mid teens, is it that much of a surprise he's improved enough to be the best ever with proper training and conditioning as an adult?
 

Rutita1

Council Estate Socialist
And there it is, criticising a black person in sport is racist, I wondered how long you would take.

I appreciative your illustration.

Pathetic!
:confused: Get a grip mate...read this thread and you will see loads of pathetic comments that IMO very much show people's prejudices, even if some of them were made to get a rise.

Criticising a black person is not racist. You just made that up!:rolleyes:

Pathetic!
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
The guy's got an enormous stride, of course he's going to look like he's putting less effort in than the others.

As has been pointed out, he was freakishly quick while he was still in his mid teens, is it that much of a surprise he's improved enough to be the best ever with proper training and conditioning as an adult?
What you say could be true, but an alternative could also be true given the skipping home in Bolts case.

And to suggest so is not wrong.

I have never ever seen such a nonchalant ending to a world record in any sport. ever!
 

exosculate

a stagger with a beat
:confused: Get a grip mate...read this thread and you will see loads of pathetic comments that IMO very much show people's prejudices, even if some of them were made to get a rise.

Criticising a black person is not racist. You just made that up!:rolleyes:

Pathetic!
That's the tone i get specifically from you, madusa and ymu.

That's how it comes across to me.
 

Rutita1

Council Estate Socialist
That's the tone i get specifically from you, madusa and ymu.

That's how it comes across to me.
TBH I think you read it how you want to. Loads of other folk on here are making the same jokes, how do you read them?

Bolt jogged the last 10 metres of the 100metres final. People don't like that. He was showboating out of the sheer shock that nobody was anywhere near him. Using that as proof he is doping is a bit of a weak argument.
 

Jessiedog

Keeping the faith.
Until Jamaica have a properly accredited out-of-competion drug-testing programme, it would be foolish not to entertain the possibilty of drug cheating.



Woof
 

quimcunx

protestant traybake
He SKIPPED THE LAST 10 METRES and still broke the world record.

Of course its reasonable to assert as a possibility
You can assert that taking drugs is a possibility for any athlete at any level. The temptation to abuse drugs is there for all. Hence all that testing.

However, I see no more reason to assert it for Usain Bolt than any other. As has been said already he is 6'5'' and all legs, but also has the explosive start that is not normally associated with taller athletes. He was extraordinarily fast when he started out (at a time he was very unlikely to have taken performance enhancing drugs) but hasn't improved his time by an extraordinary amount. So, to my mind, there is no reason to automatically assume he is on drugs just because he is so far ahead of the rest of the field.

Your main concern seems to be that he prevailed with such apparent ease and insouciance. Skipping would be more indicitive of recreational drugs and it seems unlikely he had a quick snort just before the start.
 

ScallyWag II

New Member
Usain Bolt is a freak of nature - much like Michael Johnson before him (although the body type is very different) - he's 6 foot 5 but he has the kind of fast twitch musculature that all great sprinters need combined with an enormously long stride. I'd love to see what he can do over 400m when he's a wee bit older, assuming he can sustain it over the longer distance.

ETA ach, quoted the wrong post, can't be bothered to change it though.
Looking at his racing history on wiki he used to run 400m as a youth. With his talent anythings possible!
 
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