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jamaica - fastest nation on earth!!

marty21

One on one? You're crazy.
they've won all the sprints

100 and 200 men
100 and 200 women


should get the 100 relays in both too i reckon

:cool:
 

marty21

One on one? You're crazy.
the top ones run on the international circuit, so i'd say they get tested enough

jamaica is not exactly a wealthy country either, so spending money on drug testing athletes is not exactly a priority
 

gilroy

New Member
Iv heard that mentioned on the Beeb as well - the Jamaicans were not moaning apparently, just pointingout that their sprinters have been properly targeted by the testers.

Not sure about this pre olympics though.
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
I swear i read something in a thread last week that the jamaican team was being tested more than most at the olympics?
Just to state the obvious, that's called testing 'in competition', the link describes the testing regime in Jamaica i.e. out of competition.

And there isn't any effective testing in Jamaica out of competition.

And yes, it's as important.


- just to clarify.
 

marty21

One on one? You're crazy.
just wondering London_Calling , do you actually like watching sport at all ?, or is your enjoyment spoiled by your belief that anyone who wins something might have taken performance enhancers
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
Well if you have something else to care about, focus on that rather than attacking me or saying 'THEY'RE ON DRUGS' or you're proving me right.
If you read my post, I tried to help you becasuse you hadn't grasped the difference between the liked article (which alked about out of competition testing) and the view you expressed.

It's also not about how many tests someone has had "this year".
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
just wondering London_Calling , do you actually like watching sport at all ?, or is your enjoyment spoiled by your belief that anyone who wins something might have taken performance enhancers
It's a fact that Jamaica doesn't have effective out of competition testing. I mentioned that becasue people stated a position but hadn't taken on board the difference between out an in of competition - there are a lot of people here who are relatively new to athletics, and are also quite excitable.

Fwiw, I remember the East Germans, and the Americans of earlier this decade, and a lot in between.

As a mature adult, I imagine your memory goes back some way as well ?
 

marty21

One on one? You're crazy.
It's a fact that Jamaica doesn't have effective out of competition testing. I mentioned that becasue people stated a position but hadn't taken on board the difference between out an in of competition - there are a lot of people here who are relatively new to athletics, and are also quite excitable.

Fwiw, I remember the East Germans, and the Americans of earlier this decade, and a lot in between.

As a mature adult, I imagine your memory goes back some way as well ?
it does go back to those days, but those days are totally different, the testing is a lot more sophisticated these days
 

Jessiedog

Keeping the faith.
First mooted in 2005, the Jamaican Anti-Doping Commission (Jadco) remains an organisation with more good intentions than testing kits. Repeated promises have been made to fast-track the necessary legislation and funds through parliament but three years later all that is clear is the island's sprinters are faster than its lawmakers.


First mooted in 2005, the Jamaican Anti-Doping Commission (Jadco) remains an organisation with more good intentions than testing kits. Repeated promises have been made to fast-track the necessary legislation and funds through parliament but three years later all that is clear is the island's sprinters are faster than its lawmakers.[/B]

Neither the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) nor the Jamaican authorities have been able to confirm to BBC Sport that Jadco is actually operating yet. The situation is further muddied by Jamaica's decision to opt out of the Wada-approved Caribbean Regional Anti-Doping Organisation (Rado).


:hmm:


Woof
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
more money is being spent on testing, in all sports - you never used to get footballers caught, not you do, even cricketers have been banned
Yep, we know that. It's important the IOC is seen as doing everything it can otherwise, as they're very aware, the credibility of the sport is undermined.

So they tell us time and again how testing is improving.

Fwiw, I'd do the same if I was involved with an organisation that made even the Formula One cash cow look like a boys scouts cook out.
 

Jessiedog

Keeping the faith.
more money is being spent on testing, in all sports - you never used to get footballers caught, not you do, even cricketers have been banned


Nigel Irritable said:
Testing, particularly in-competition testing, only catches the stupid, the desperate or the extremely unlucky. Many of the substances used by top athletes are undetectable by any tests we currently have or use. Some other substances that top athletes use are detectable, but generally only within a short window.

For that reason, when cheats are using detectable substances they generally use them out of competition, when testing is very infrequent. Should they be unlucky enough to be tested during the brief period when one of the substances they are using is detectable, their main response is to use various forms of the "ducking and diving" technique mentioned earlier - missing tests, knowing that (a) they won't be banned the first two times in 18 months and (b) if they are so staggeringly unlucky as to have the testers try to hit them three times when drugs are still detectable that the resulting ban will be shorter than the one that would come from a positive test.
:hmm:


Woof
 
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