Jade Goody in Indian Big Brother?

[pk]

Dunno about past history. A lot of people seem to not like me, despute my short time on this site...

Something about what you do with your excrement, perhaps?

 

[Cid]

Why is it that Goody gets such stick? To be fucking honest I think the race problem lies with the Indians, not her... She has shown that she did not mean what she said by going out there and facing down criticism that must have really hurt. We have all said stupid things in little moments where we fail to hold our tongues, but the fact is that this should not reflect on the person. I think many of us hold some views that wishy-washy liberals find offensive, but why should one not be against the tides that flow from abroad. Surely Urban of all places must despise the spread of dangerous religions from the middle-east and gay haters from eastern Europe? It is not just colour that is an issue, but language and lack of integration.

Indians clearly think the same things; why else would they make it so hard for westerners to buy homes there? Our colonial legacy brought them into the modern world and then they sought independence. Fair enough I say (although I think they should apologise for some tactics used and maybe thank us for some of the good we did), we are both honourable peoples and I think if we stick to our own countries we could have great relations.

 

[Belushi]

Indians clearly think the same things; why else would they make it so hard for westerners to buy homes there? Our colonial legacy brought them into the modern world and then they sought independence. Fair enough I say (although I think they should apologise for some tactics used and maybe thank us for some of the good we did),

Perhaps the stupidest thing I've read this year.

 

[Cid]

Perhaps the stupidest thing I've read this year.

I thought you of all people would understand what is FACT.

 

[Belushi]

I thought you of all people would understand what is FACT.

Are you still mental?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Why is it that Goody gets such stick? To be fucking honest I think the race problem lies with the Indians, not her... She has shown that she did not mean what she said by going out there and facing down criticism that must have really hurt. We have all said stupid things in little moments where we fail to hold our tongues, but the fact is that this should not reflect on the person. I think many of us hold some views that wishy-washy liberals find offensive, but why should one not be against the tides that flow from abroad. Surely Urban of all places must despise the spread of dangerous religions from the middle-east and gay haters from eastern Europe? It is not just colour that is an issue, but language and lack of integration.

Indians clearly think the same things; why else would they make it so hard for westerners to buy homes there? Our colonial legacy brought them into the modern world and then they sought independence. Fair enough I say (although I think they should apologise for some tactics used and maybe thank us for some of the good we did), we are both honourable peoples and I think if we stick to our own countries we could have great relations.

What the hell are you on about?

 

[Firky]

This thread has a nasty taste to it...

 

[Firky]

What do you both mean, 'she can barely speak English'?

I actually thought that this thread might be about a PR attempt by her to get back in the public's good books - not about her accent/class origins etc

Spot on.

Haha let's laugh at the thick fat slapper from the essex council estate.



FWIW I can't stand her for what she says and does and not what she is or was.

 

[Looby]

I think it's a fucking terrible idea but I've no doubt it's part of a long term plan to get her back in the public eye. First the perfume, then BB. I believe ITV are ready to give her another show.

I always liked Jade until the Shilpa thing, she seemed very sweet. I thought she was hilarious on BB (that was such a fun year) and good on her for the money she made. She can't be that thick to be as successful as she was. It's more that she doesn't engage her brain and think before she speaks.

She was out of order on Celeb BB but I think having Jack and her mum there didn't help because she wouldn't have been so bolshy if she was on her own in there. Danielle Lloyd and Jo thingybob were just as bad if not worse and showed much less remorse, although it could be that she had more to lose in terms of contracts and things.

 

[pk]

Haha let's laugh at the thick fat slapper from the essex council estate.

Bermondsey.

 

[Firky]

Southwark is a dive

 

[pogofish]

What is the other show?

The Indian version of Big Brother? The series airs in local versions for umpteen countries. It was not even original by the time it got here.

Then there were the progs they got out of her going to India & making-up with Shetty/"discovering" the culture etc.

 

[nortyrascal]

She has shown that she did not mean what she said by going out there and facing down criticism that must have really hurt.

Come on.
She went out there in a desperate attempt to shore up the damage she inflicted upon herself by her comments. Her lucrative career had nosedived and she attempted a 'damage limitation' excercise.
IMHO Jade Goody was being Jade Goody in the BB house.

nortyrascal

 

[Grandma Death]

She has shown that she did not mean what she said by going out there and facing down criticism that must have really hurt.

To be fair I dont think she had much of a choice-otherwise her B list celebrity status would've gone down the pan big time.

E2A Norty beat me to it.

 

[exosculate]

FUCK FUCK FUCK to the right on BULLSHIT!

Jade is an absolute arse-wipe, and I cannot believe she will get any further airtime. She is truly a disgusting human being! Being from a poor background is not of itself virtuous and I am sick of people suggesting this is the case,

 

[Cid]

What the hell are you on about?

Well lets start from the top. We live in a nanny state, I think most agree on this. Also we live in Britain. Now Britain is a great country, we have always accepted those fleeing from oppression. We have sheltered some of the world's great thinkers from governments that might otherwise have persecuted them. Our Empire was, at times, a bloody one - this is true. But it brought modernity and a new form of culture to lands that were otherwise backwards. From the countries that we set on the road to the future we received students. We trained some of the world's great minds so that they could rise up against the Empire when it foundered on the rocks of immorality.

I think the collapse of Empire wasn't one, rather it was like our children growing up and leaving the nest. Rebellions are like teenage years, they were our children testing their strength, shouting at their parents. But in your teenage years you find your identity, you begin to assume the beliefs that will guide you in the future. So our children grew up and left us, and we were sad - as any parent would be. Our economy went down the plughole as all our plans for a peaceful, co-operative Empire dissolved. Parents often find their children leaving them or doing things they don't approve of and feel alienated and alone. We did what any good parent would do and gave them the best upbringing we could, but we made the tragic mistake of assuming that the flange children would willingly remain in the family and help the parents as the parents helped them.

So now we are the old, isolated humbug of the world. Our children hate us because they do not understand what we gave them, but gradually these walls are being broken down and reparations are being made. The problem is that the children are now realising that they can't live on their own, that the wisdom of the old humbug is needed. So they come to us again, but this time they move to our lands. Why do we accept the return of the child that could not manage its debts? We are not a charity, we will give refuge to those in genuine distress, but why should we take those that could not quim and help themselves?

I hate to be cliched but we are becoming a minority in our own land, the flocks of poor and miserable children are pushing the parents out of the nest. To cope with this there is a new kind of racism engendered by the nanny state, a racism that singles out us. For the working classes it is hardly a problem, they are employed without looking to race because who cares what the faces on the shop floor look like in the press? It is the middle classes, always visible, that lose out; the managers, the consultants, the health and safety execs, the telephone sanitizers, the team leaders. You get the picture. Why should we have to put up with someone being chosen for being brown or black? They are our children, and if they want to return to the flock they should jolly well have to prove they are able to!

 

[zoooo]

What makes you think that someone who has clicked on a thread with Big Brother in the title, is going to read a post with that many words in it?

 

[cypher79]

ffs, i thought we had seen the last of jade goody!

does this vile troll have no fucking shame!?

 

[cesare]

Sorry, caesre, but you seem to be having a go at everyone because they disapprove of jades racist behaviour. I reckon that you are doing this in order to seem "different" and "above it all".

Well, you're wrong. If you think that casual racism is acceptable because it isn't rare, your wrong. In fact, you're a fucking moron.

Don't go defending Jade Goody out of your pretension towards intelectual snobishness. If someone goes on TV (especially with the profile of JG) and makes blatantly racist coments, then they deserve everything they get.

No - I wasn't having a go at everyone. I had a go at two people because at the start of the thread they were being disparaging about her, not because of the racism, but because of her ability to speak and write English.

Further, there was a comment about her not being representative of the British people in context of casual racism, and I was pointing out that she is entirely representative of a vast amount of British people in that regard. If you don't believe that, that's fine and you can keep your head in the sand.

Do I think she's a good ambassador? Not really. I don't like her at all. But I don't like her because of what she says, not how she says or spells it.

Spot on.

Haha let's laugh at the thick fat slapper from the essex council estate.



FWIW I can't stand her for what she says and does and not what she is or was.

Exactly what I think.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Well lets start from the top. We live in a nanny state, I think most agree on this. Also we live in Britain. Now Britain is a great country, we have always accepted those fleeing from oppression. We have sheltered some of the world's great thinkers from governments that might otherwise have persecuted them. Our Empire was, at times, a bloody one - this is true. But it brought modernity and a new form of culture to lands that were otherwise backwards. From the countries that we set on the road to the future we received students. We trained some of the world's great minds so that they could rise up against the Empire when it foundered on the rocks of immorality.

So we should give ourselves a great big pat on the back!

I think the collapse of Empire wasn't one, rather it was like our children growing up and leaving the nest. Rebellions are like teenage years, they were our children testing their strength, shouting at their parents. But in your teenage years you find your identity, you begin to assume the beliefs that will guide you in the future. So our children grew up and left us, and we were sad - as any parent would be. Our economy went down the plughole as all our plans for a peaceful, co-operative Empire dissolved. Parents often find their children leaving them or doing things they don't approve of and feel alienated and alone. We did what any good parent would do and gave them the best upbringing we could, but we made the tragic mistake of assuming that the flange children would willingly remain in the family and help the parents as the parents helped them.

Your analogy of children and parents is annoying to say the least. It's very patronising and smacks of the kind of colonialist views I'd rather never surfaced again thanks.

So now we are the old, isolated humbug of the world. Our children hate us because they do not understand what we gave them, but gradually these walls are being broken down and reparations are being made.

They understand what was given actually, they also understand what was taken away.

The problem is that the children are now realising that they can't live on their own, that the wisdom of the old humbug is needed. So they come to us again, but this time they move to our lands. Why do we accept the return of the child that could not manage its debts? We are not a charity, we will give refuge to those in genuine distress, but why should we take those that could not quim and help themselves?

This is over simplified crap. Britain continues to enjoy the fruits of colonialism and continues to make money in the former colonies. The piece of your post I have highlighted reads like a Daily Mail article, well done.

I hate to be cliched but we are becoming a minority in our own land, the flocks of poor and miserable children are pushing the parents out of the nest. To cope with this there is a new kind of racism engendered by the nanny state, a racism that singles out us.

This is nothing new, the traditionally white working class have always been overlooked and left wanting.

For the working classes it is hardly a problem, they are employed without looking to race because who cares what the faces on the shop floor look like in the press?

?

It is the middle classes, always visible, that lose out; the managers, the consultants, the health and safety execs, the telephone sanitizers, the team leaders. You get the picture. Why should we have to put up with someone being chosen for being brown or black?

As simple as that huh? Oh poor you! You sound like a jealous child stamping their feet because it's no longer going their way btw.

No black or brown people get jobs on their own merits/skills etc...it's all reverse discrimination?

They are our children, and if they want to return to the flock they should jolly well have to prove they are able to!

'They' are not your children, they never were!

What the hell your Daily-Mailesque rant has to do with Jade Goody going into Indian BB is anyone's guess...mind you the acceptance of casual racism and the patronising way in which you characterise Indian people is I suppose an unfortunate representation of the kind of views she herself was exposed to growing up in Bermondsey.

Go beat you poor me drum to an audience who is naive enough to view the post colonial situation in such a biased and over simplified way.

Bermonsey, may be a good place!

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I thought you of all people would understand what is FACT.

There’s no evidence for it, but it is a scientific fact.

 

[pk]

FUCK FUCK FUCK to the right on BULLSHIT!

Jade is an absolute arse-wipe, and I cannot believe she will get any further airtime. She is truly a disgusting human being! Being from a poor background is not of itself virtuous and I am sick of people suggesting this is the case,

 

[Cid]

Rutitata - you have fallen for it, the government lie, hook, line and sinker. They have to pander to the miurinties because otherwise they look like racists. I am not a racist, but I believe each cuntry should look after its own and not have to look after those of others. The constant wave of health tourists is a good example of how our human resources are pulled off from those of us who stand proud. With grain surpluses our very seed is sucked from us, why should we turn our eye away, when that eye cries tears, white tears?

 

[isvicthere?]

She can barely speak english.

I wonder if her Hindi is as good as Shilpa Shetty's English.

 

[Melinda]

Well lets start from the top. We live in a nanny state, I think most agree on this. Also we live in Britain. Now Britain is a great country, we have always accepted those fleeing from oppression. We have sheltered some of the world's great thinkers from governments that might otherwise have persecuted them. Our Empire was, at times, a bloody one - this is true. But it brought modernity and a new form of culture to lands that were otherwise backwards. From the countries that we set on the road to the future we received students. We trained some of the world's great minds so that they could rise up against the Empire when it foundered on the rocks of immorality.

I think the collapse of Empire wasn't one, rather it was like our children growing up and leaving the nest. Rebellions are like teenage years, they were our children testing their strength, shouting at their parents. But in your teenage years you find your identity, you begin to assume the beliefs that will guide you in the future. So our children grew up and left us, and we were sad - as any parent would be. Our economy went down the plughole as all our plans for a peaceful, co-operative Empire dissolved. Parents often find their children leaving them or doing things they don't approve of and feel alienated and alone. We did what any good parent would do and gave them the best upbringing we could, but we made the tragic mistake of assuming that the flange children would willingly remain in the family and help the parents as the parents helped them.

So now we are the old, isolated humbug of the world. Our children hate us because they do not understand what we gave them, but gradually these walls are being broken down and reparations are being made. The problem is that the children are now realising that they can't live on their own, that the wisdom of the old humbug is needed. So they come to us again, but this time they move to our lands. Why do we accept the return of the child that could not manage its debts? We are not a charity, we will give refuge to those in genuine distress, but why should we take those that could not quim and help themselves?

I hate to be cliched but we are becoming a minority in our own land, the flocks of poor and miserable children are pushing the parents out of the nest. To cope with this there is a new kind of racism engendered by the nanny state, a racism that singles out us. For the working classes it is hardly a problem, they are employed without looking to race because who cares what the faces on the shop floor look like in the press? It is the middle classes, always visible, that lose out; the managers, the consultants, the health and safety execs, the telephone sanitizers, the team leaders. You get the picture. Why should we have to put up with someone being chosen for being brown or black? They are our children, and if they want to return to the flock they should jolly well have to prove they are able to!

Jaw dropping paternalistic and patronising rot.

 

[fogbat]

Well lets start from the top. We live in a nanny state, I think most agree on this. Also we live in Britain. Now Britain is a great country, we have always accepted those fleeing from oppression. We have sheltered some of the world's great thinkers from governments that might otherwise have persecuted them. Our Empire was, at times, a bloody one - this is true. But it brought modernity and a new form of culture to lands that were otherwise backwards. From the countries that we set on the road to the future we received students. We trained some of the world's great minds so that they could rise up against the Empire when it foundered on the rocks of immorality.

I think the collapse of Empire wasn't one, rather it was like our children growing up and leaving the nest. Rebellions are like teenage years, they were our children testing their strength, shouting at their parents. But in your teenage years you find your identity, you begin to assume the beliefs that will guide you in the future. So our children grew up and left us, and we were sad - as any parent would be. Our economy went down the plughole as all our plans for a peaceful, co-operative Empire dissolved. Parents often find their children leaving them or doing things they don't approve of and feel alienated and alone. We did what any good parent would do and gave them the best upbringing we could, but we made the tragic mistake of assuming that the flange children would willingly remain in the family and help the parents as the parents helped them.

So now we are the old, isolated humbug of the world. Our children hate us because they do not understand what we gave them, but gradually these walls are being broken down and reparations are being made. The problem is that the children are now realising that they can't live on their own, that the wisdom of the old humbug is needed. So they come to us again, but this time they move to our lands. Why do we accept the return of the child that could not manage its debts? We are not a charity, we will give refuge to those in genuine distress, but why should we take those that could not quim and help themselves?

I hate to be cliched but we are becoming a minority in our own land, the flocks of poor and miserable children are pushing the parents out of the nest. To cope with this there is a new kind of racism engendered by the nanny state, a racism that singles out us. For the working classes it is hardly a problem, they are employed without looking to race because who cares what the faces on the shop floor look like in the press? It is the middle classes, always visible, that lose out; the managers, the consultants, the health and safety execs, the telephone sanitizers, the team leaders. You get the picture. Why should we have to put up with someone being chosen for being brown or black? They are our children, and if they want to return to the flock they should jolly well have to prove they are able to!

*wonders*

 

[ddraig]

has someone stolen Cid's login???

otherwise. what.the.fuck?!?! and get.to.fuck!

such bollocks

 

[Fictionist]

Is Cid chasing and fighting windmills?

 

[cesare]

has someone stolen Cid's login???

otherwise. what.the.fuck?!?! and get.to.fuck!

such bollocks

Weird isn't it? Doesn't sound like his usual posts

 

[Flashman]

Last time someone went this mad was Capt. James Sawyer of the HMS Renown, in Hornblower.