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Jack Straw vs Nick Griffin on Question Time

He's too easy to take the piss out of... look at all the stupid stuff he's done.. they'd just sit there gurning at each other
 
galloway would be a blinder or mark thomas could you just imagine the glee.
straws a grown up and isn't going to win a fight with basicly a thug

Straw is actually a more wily operator than one might think. For sure we normally see him as a bog standard Nu Labour defeindnig hack, but he has won vicious fights against trots and other politcal enemies in the past. He has got where he is by tactical political nouse.

Don't get me wrong, his nouse is used in an utterly cynical and reactionary way usually, but he is someone who could with the experience to point out the gross contradictions and lies of Griffin.
 
they should get senior black politicians from all the major parties to sit on the panel


ah....can only think of the lammy fellah, and he's pretty junior
 
they should get senior black politicians from all the major parties to sit on the panel


ah....can only think of the lammy fellah, and he's pretty junior

why exactly do you want to make race an issue? Beyond that if race is an issue, can't see Nick Griffin competing effectively for black votes as it is
 
why exactly do you want to make race an issue? Beyond that if race is an issue, can't see Nick Griffin competing effectively for black votes as it is

how can it not be a race issue when griffin is involved?

the black panel was a bit tongue in cheek to be fair, but would be nice to see him squirm
 
its gonna be the most viewed question time ever i bet what with all the fuss thats being made

labour has had the whole party to choose from and with so many people watching straw had better be good
 
Why are we concentrating soley on labour here?

I don't think they had the whole party to choose from anyway, they had a tiny handful of MPs who were clean on the expenses and free of any other scandal. There's really no victory to be hand in Jack Straw 'beating' Nick Griffin anyway.
 
Straw really pisses me off and 50 million others in this country. I might him support Griffin just to spite him.




Joke. But some people will.
 
i think it wouldve been better if people had just accepted that as an mep he gets to be on question time and not made all the fuss

all its done is serve as advertising for griffins tv appearance that there wouldent otherwise have been

one never hears about other people who are gonna be on qt months in advance
 
If one choice could encapsulate the reason people are ditching Labour for the BNP ...

However good Mr Straw is on the fly (and I think he's as over-rated as Mr Griffin), as others have said, he'll be shackled by Labour policy. The government seem pathologically incapable of realising that as part of the problem, they can't be part of the answer. If they had any sense they'd avoid the programme altogether and nudge an outsider on.
 
they should get senior black politicians from all the major parties to sit on the panel


ah....can only think of the lammy fellah, and he's pretty junior

why? since when have only black people been the potential victims or ooponents of fascism?
 
mike tyson and tell him griffin likes to shoot black kids.
ok the debate would'nt be up to much but nick griffin being beat to a bloody pulp would make good tv in HD EVEN BETTER
 
I'm going to watch in order to determine whose eyes are the most dead-fish blank. Could be Griffin but I think his massive potato sack eyebags give the eyes an advantage because of how they frame his shark eyes

you do realise that Griff has only one real eye.. due to ahem an unfortunate explosion in his 'wilder' days...

straw will be minced..

its gonna be car crash viewing... i understand though there is also the possibilities of protests outside the studio and even inside....
 
you do realise that Griff has only one real eye.. due to ahem an unfortunate explosion in his 'wilder' days...

straw will be minced..

its gonna be car crash viewing... i understand though there is also the possibilities of protests outside the studio and even inside....

that'll be good

the far right turns up for a debate and the left chuck eggs about, shout ''fascist'' and get dragged off the stage by steve from jerry springer
 
mike tyson and tell him griffin likes to shoot black kids.
ok the debate would'nt be up to much but nick griffin being beat to a bloody pulp would make good tv in HD EVEN BETTER

Yep.. or Frank Bruno..Frank may not be clued up politically or bursting with intellect.. but at least would say what he means.. unlike the creep Griffin.
 
Why are we concentrating soley on labour here?

because they're the ones that have announced that they reckon it's necessary to put the Foreign Secretary up against a brand new MEP? An announcement apparently made by the PM himself, just to add to the sense that Griffin is the most important figure in national politics atm.

anyway I'm hoping Widdicomb represents the blues, Straw's too dull for a proper spectacle.
 
how can it not be a race issue when griffin is involved?

the black panel was a bit tongue in cheek to be fair, but would be nice to see him squirm

I've debatated with BNP activists in the recent past, you would be amazed at the areas race figures:hmm:, they will dog whistle at every opportunity. I have more faith in a dog that didn't bark approach that allows them be hoist by their own pititard
 
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