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Jack Straw tries to ban meeting to oppose visit of Condaleezza Rice

Fisher_Gate

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A Stop the War Coalition meeting went ahead in Blackburn last Friday night (10 March) despite underhand attempts initiated by foreign secretary and local MP, Jack Straw, to try to ban it. The meeting was hastily set up to organise a public protest against the invitation by Straw to Condaleezza Rice, US Secretary of State, to his home constituency of Blackburn. On the platform were anti-war MP George Galloway, Craig Murray, former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan who was sacked by Straw for opposing British support for torture, and Stop the War Coalition's Lindsey German.

On Thursday night (9 March) the meeting organiser, Preston Councillor and Stop the War activist, Michael Lavalette, received a phone call to say that there was an electrical fault in the school/community hall that had been booked for the meeting, and on safety grounds the meeting would be unable to go ahead. He visited the hall that evening with fellow StWC members and discovered it fully operational. Staff confirmed that there was no electrical fault and that they had been instructed to say there was by the School's governors, who coincidentally were meeting that night. Lavalette and his fellow StWC campaigners lobbied the governors who claimed that they had been informed at 12 noon that day by Blackburn Council, the building owners, that the meeting should be stopped. On contacting Blackburn Council next morning, Lavalette was told that the Council had not tried to stop the meeting, that it was only the governors, a fact denied by them.

By 10am and 11am Lavalette had been on both Radio Lancashire and Rock FM (the local independent radio station) who were both carrying the banning of the meeting as their main story. By 12 noon, the chief executive of Blackburn Borough Council had contacted Lavalette to say that there had been a misunderstanding and that the meeting could go ahead in a different venue - Blackburn Central Library, some 1-2 miles from the original venue. The venue was shifted at only 7 hours notice.

In the event the meeting room provided at the Library was far too small for the hundreds wanting to attend, who had to crowd into the streets outside. Council staff (who were 100% cooperative with StWC) provided a nearby larger venue in the St George's Hall and the meeting eventually went ahead about 45 minutes late.

It is believed that both the school governors and Blackburn Borough Council are extremely influenced by Jack Straw and that he was the source of the instruction to stop the meeting; though there is no unassailable proof of this, it has not been denied.

In addressing the meeting, Craig Murray, who had stood against Jack Straw in the 2005 general election, explained how Blackburn Borough Council was one of New Labour's rotten boroughs. Even though it is the law under the Representation of the People Act, the Council had refused to provide him with a list of public meeting venues for election campaign meetings. He also explained how Straw had tried to suppress his forthcoming book "Murder in Samarkand" - available for order on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...71516/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/202-0843310-3894234)
So outrageous was the suppression of free speech and the right to protest under New Labour that Murray was prepared to go to prison to defend it. Both Murray and other speakers called for New Labour to be swept from office in Blackburn - Galloway called for 'New Labour's stables to be cleansed'.

Other speakers, including Galloway, received an enthusiastic reception as they spoke against the war in Iraq, about the threat posed by a war in Iran, and against Islamaphobia. I counted around 220 people at the meeting, virtually all local, with a wide range of ages, gender and ethnicity. All were united in opposing the visit by US Secretary of State and it was agreed to organise the biggest possible protest for her arrival.

The exact date of Rice's visit is not yet known, but you can register at www.condiwatch.co.uk to be sent an e-mail or text as soon as the details are known. The weekends of 25 March and 1 April are considered to be the most likely possibilities. The warmongers will also visit Liverpool and a protest meeting has also taken place there, though I don't have any details of it.
 
Fisher_Gate said:
The exact date of Rice's visit is not yet known, but you can register at www.condiwatch.co.uk to be sent an e-mail or text as soon as the details are known.

Since not UK, registering would not be useful.

I would love to see a coverage of such a demonstration where people wrote "USA APOLOGIZE TO THE MIDDLE EAST" and "WE APOLOGIZE TO THE MIDDLE EAST" on plackards while chanting this. (Better even if written in Arabic and Farsi too.)

The more the better since the more of these type of coverage reaching TV screens in the Middle East, the better.
The USA/UK created a solid base for Radical recruiters. Time to try to help counter this, isn't it.

salaam.
 
Aldebaran said:
Since not UK, registering would not be useful.

I would love to see a coverage of such a demonstration where people wrote "USA APOLOGIZE TO THE MIDDLE EAST" and "WE APOLOGIZE TO THE MIDDLE EAST" on plackards while chanting this. (Better even if written in Arabic and Farsi too.)

The more the better since the more of these type of coverage reaching TV screens in the Middle East, the better.
The USA/UK created a solid base for Radical recruiters. Time to try to help counter this, isn't it.

salaam.

Yes, and I await similar apologies the other side as well.

I'm sure that as soon as we see Iran crowds chanting "We love the USA" - we will follow suit.
 
spring-peeper said:
Yes, and I await similar apologies the other side as well.

You have nothing to demand apologies for.

I'm sure that as soon as we see Iran crowds chanting "We love the USA" - we will follow suit.

Tell me, what reason can you give for any Iranian to chant "we love the country that does nothing else then insult, denigrate and threaten us"?
You are clearly completely out of your mind and in a state of illusionary lunaticism caused by an arrogance that is beyond measurement.

salaam.
 
Aldebaran said:
You have nothing to demand apologies for.



Tell me, what reason can you give for any Iranian to chant "we love the country that does nothing else then insult, denigrate and threaten us"?
You are clearly completely out of your mind and in a state of illusionary lunaticism caused by an arrogance that is beyond measurement.

salaam.

I know, I'm a Canadian.

I also believe that it takes two to have a fight.

As for your chant - I hear that chant from my own countrymen as well. We love our country and are constantly insulted, denigrated and threatened as well.

We are told to grow up and stop blaming America for all our problems :D
 
Aldebaran said:
"WE APOLOGIZE TO THE MIDDLE EAST"
Those who were once in favour of the war might carry such banners, but those of us who opposed the war from day one really have no reason to do such a thing.

Perhaps "OVER TWO MILLION BRITS TOLD BUSH/BLAIR NOT TO INVADE IRAQ" would be better?
 
TAE said:
Those who were once in favour of the war might carry such banners, but those of us who opposed the war from day one really have no reason to do such a thing.

Perhaps "OVER TWO MILLION BRITS TOLD BUSH/BLAIR NOT TO INVADE IRAQ" would be better?

Yes.
Although the demonstrations against the war world wide were all over TV screens and in the media (much more then in the West let alone in the USA), such a reminder that these people didn't switch camp or only "cared for a moment" would be a very good idea.

salaam.
 
spring-peeper said:
As for your chant - I hear that chant from my own countrymen as well. We love our country and are constantly insulted, denigrated and threatened as well.

We are told to grow up and stop blaming America for all our problems :D

As far as I know Canadians were not murdered by the USA by the tens of thousands or maimed by even a greater number, Canadians are not threatened to be murdered or maimed by the USA, no Canadian territory was invaded and bombed with "shock and awe" terrorism by the USA and no Canadian territory is threatened to be bombed or invaded by the USA.

I suppose you are unable to see any difference in situations and perspectives?

salaam.
 
I'm sure you are aware that quite a few US'ers supported (i.e. helped finance) the IRA.
 
Aldebaran said:
As far as I know Canadians were not murdered by the USA by the tens of thousands or maimed by even a greater number, Canadians are not threatened to be murdered or maimed by the USA, no Canadian territory was invaded and bombed with "shock and awe" terrorism by the USA and no Canadian territory is threatened to be bombed or invaded by the USA.

I suppose you are unable to see any difference in situations and perspectives?

salaam.


Unlike yourself, I see America using methods that do not use violence as valid as those that are violent.

Maybe you present the illusion that violence is the only thing you understand.
 
tangentlama said:
are you on medication for that, spring_peeper?


I see that we are going to have a problem, you and me.

I'm going to put you on ignore so that we don't enter into something that we will both regret.

Peace, love and harmony.

eta: right after you give me proof of your accusions on the other thread, of course.

btw - cross thread abuse is against the faq, so stop it.
 
:rolleyes: this is not cross-thread abuse.

i genuinely want to know if you are on medication that causes you to perceive that Aldebaran "presents an illusion that violence is the only thing he can understand"?#

can you cite the exact quote in this thread that shows 'violence is the only thing [Aldebaran] can understand'

thanks in advance
 
tangentlama said:
:rolleyes: this is not cross-thread abuse.

i genuinely want to know if you are on medication that causes you to perceive that Aldebaran "presents an illusion that violence is the only thing he can understand"?#

can you cite the exact quote in this thread that shows 'violence is the only thing [Aldebaran] can understand'

thanks in advance

it's oh so quiet.......



:D
 
Fisher_Gate said:
a lady from liverpool rang up the phone-in show on C-Span today (US channel, live on the BBC parliament channel on a Sunday 12-3pm) to say she was on this demo - in fact there were quite a few anti-war calls from the UK on C-Span today - I was well impressed, especially as they had an ex-military guy on as their guest talking the same tired old crap :)
 
So - this was a meeting to protest about Jack Straw trying to stop a meeting called to stop a meeting he wants to have? Instead of trying to stop all these meetings, why not just ask to meet Condoleeza when she comes to Blackburn? She's probably a very nice woman.
 
treelover said:
Is that Chantelle in the photo of the Blackburn meeting, quite apt: ''Whoose that Bush guy, i'm sure i've seen him on the telly! ;)

Galloway joked that Chantelle called her 'Monalisa Rice' ...
 
Straw grassed his own son up to the OB when he was 'honeytrapped' by a journo from the Mirror into sorting her out an 1/8th of hash. What does anyone fucking expect?

BTW Alderbaran - how much footage and coverage of the anti-war movement is given on say, Al-Jazeera or Iranian TV? How much coverage was given to the 2nd 'cartoons' demonstration where 'moderate' Muslims registered their offence but didn't march around calling for Fire and Brimstone to be rained down from on High?
 
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