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I've just had a letter from dole saying that they coming to my house, WTF?

When the recession was on back in the nineties I had a period of about nine months unemployment. One day I had to sign on the same day I had a job interview so I turned up to the dole office wearing a suit. I was immediatly herded into a side room and made to answer all kinds of questions and almost making me late for my interview :rolleyes: :mad:

The other thing that really pissed me off was that I managed to get about two months work and in that period unemployment benefit changed to jobseekers allowance which managed to deduct five quid from my fortnightly claim than if I'd sat on my arse and done sod all (They weren't making deductions from people already claiming).

Yes, if you find yourself in the situation of needing help from the government they make it as awkward as possible and the assumption is always that you're fiddling the paltry amount they expect you to live on.

Rant over :D
 
Citizen66 said:
Yes, if you find yourself in the situation of needing help from the government they make it as awkward as possible and the assumption is always that you're fiddling the paltry amount they expect you to live on.

Rant over :D

Welcome to the club.
 
I guess they make the assumption that if you're not slowly starving you *must* be fiddling things somehow.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I don't mean to be insensitive and all, but has everybody here been on the dole at one time or another?:confused:


poll needed!

yes i've claimed benefits in the past....then paid my dues for 10 years as a teacher, boy, did I pay my dues!
 
8ball said:
I guess they make the assumption that if you're not slowly starving you *must* be fiddling things somehow.

I was lucky that in my period of unemployment I was still young and living with my parents so there was food on the table nomatter what. All other subsequent short periods of unemployment I've had I haven't bothered going to sign on. They make you feel like a second class citizen and it's really off-putting. I guess that's the way they'd prefer us to feel. Discouraged.
 
Citizen66 said:
All other subsequent short periods of unemployment I've had I haven't bothered going to sign on.


You do realise I hope that could bite you on the arse when it comes to your state pension. It is vital to sign on, for any period of unempoyment so your national insurance "stamps" are credited.
 
chymaera said:
You do realise I hope that could bite you on the arse when it comes to your state pension. It is vital to sign on, for any period of unempoyment so your national insurance "stamps" are credited.

I do realise that yes but with any luck I won't be stupid enough to remain in this country for another 32 years (or wherever they move the goal posts to til retirement age) to find out.
 
chymaera said:
You do realise I hope that could bite you on the arse when it comes to your state pension. It is vital to sign on, for any period of unempoyment so your national insurance "stamps" are credited.

By the time I retire, there won't be any state pension.

In fact, retirement? Wassat?

Only chance I have of getting any money to live one once at retirement age is to work like fuck for the rest of my life (once I've graduated) and to put as much money as I can into a private pension.
 
chymaera said:
You do realise I hope that could bite you on the arse when it comes to your state pension. It is vital to sign on, for any period of unempoyment so your national insurance "stamps" are credited.
It's bitten me on the arse when trying to get a grant to go to university. Apparently due to the weeks in the last three years when I wasn't signing on or working fulltime I don't count as financially independent so don't qualify for financial help :confused: :mad:

I was on the dole for 8 months or so in 2005, in order to allow myself time to concentrate on other projects and political stuff. I was also on the dole for a month earlier this year when I was more genuinely unable to find work, though my gin and k habit didn't help.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
It's where you're not working, and the govt. sends you a cheque. Or makes you go down and pick it up, but not likely.
But there's lots of different kinds of dole Johnny - Jobseekers Allowance, Incapacity Benefit, Housing Benefit etc.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Working isn't 'paying dues', it's getting money to survive.

A portion of which is siphoned off as a kind of 'insurance' for those who lose their jobs and can't work for a while.
 
I tried to get welfare once. We went on strike; I didn't want to be on strike. It seemed unfair to me.

So I went to the welfare office, and they said you can't get welfare when you're on strike. But what if you're starving?

We stayed out for 13 weeks. We never did make back the money we lost in those 13 weeks. I got a job working in a store in the interim.
 
Detroit City said:
pretty much, yes

not with new labour, we're not a socialist society, unless you're comparing with the states. but as several thinking posters who know the systems inside out have pointed out, we're heading towards the american system.
 
Thora said:
I was on the dole for 8 months or so in 2005, in order to allow myself time to concentrate on other projects and political stuff. I was also on the dole for a month earlier this year when I was more genuinely unable to find work, though my gin and k habit didn't help.

Looking into it more deeply with thwe whole you must be signing on to get your stamp thing it's a clever little ploy as in it isn't the dole any more is it as in unemployment benefit? It's job seekers allowance which means you must be actively seeking work to qualify for payment. If you're a wage slave pleb like most of us are and want to qualify for the state pension then you must be either in work or actively seeking it and not doing anything which is unaccountable like charity work or political activity. :rolleyes:
 
guinnessdrinker said:
they'll say the postal strike is over or something like that. they can be devious bastards (not always, I must add).

Yep. It wouldn't work.

I also had the visit from the DSS, but missed it because I didn't know about it; they had come unannounced and then dropped a letter 'through my door' to say that they were going to come back again, and if I wasn't there they'd stop my benefit. Only problem is, they dropped the letter through the outer door to the flats, not through my own door, so I never received it, didn't know they were coming and wasn't at home when they did come. I had to do a rapid reclaim. :rolleyes:

Best to just let them come round and get it over with!
 
8ball said:
But fairly plausible at the moment.
Given the fact that by your own admission, you've signed on for a grand total of 3 months, can't you understand that your 'advice' regards pretending not to have recieved the letter is, if I'm being charitable, misguided, or if I'm not, plain fucking stupid. Please, if you haven't got anything useful to say, then don't say anything at all.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I tried to get welfare once. We went on strike; I didn't want to be on strike. It seemed unfair to me.

So I went to the welfare office, and they said you can't get welfare when you're on strike. But what if you're starving?

We stayed out for 13 weeks. We never did make back the money we lost in those 13 weeks. I got a job working in a store in the interim.

I don't think you'd get benefits in Britian for being on strike either.

What if you're starving : sorry we're heading toward a US based 'fuck you' system here.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
Given the fact that by your own admission, you've signed on for a grand total of 3 months, can't you understand that your 'advice' regards pretending not to have recieved the letter is, if I'm being charitable, misguided, or if I'm not, plain fucking stupid. Please, if you haven't got anything useful to say, then don't say anything at all.

Quite the arrogant cunt . . :rolleyes:
 
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