I thought they did this winter lights bollocks the year before last? 
Remember when they were switched on by Big Brovas in Windrush sq?
Remember when they were switched on by Big Brovas in Windrush sq?
"It's PC gone mad!" Lambeth's Christmas Lights renamed "Winter Lights"
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Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Why not call it the Daily Express Festival of Britishness instead? It could be opened by Richard Desmond singing the Horst Wessel Song and dressed in a Nazi Uniform and the lights could display premium-rate numbers for Hot Sex Talk With Asian Babes Readers' Wives.
I see this not as loony-left PC madness but as a symptom of the creep of Hurmerrcan-style consumerist pusillanimity.
Holidays are coming? Blat.
Holidays are coming? Blat.
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
editor said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4398680.stm
I heard Nicky Campbell grilling them in his usual manner on Radio 5 this morning. It's the biggest load of twaddle I've ever heard (although I think I heard something similar last year as well).
I quite like the idea of celebrity lights though. We could get famous Lambeth people such as Richard Blackwood to turn them on
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
editor said:
Well I suppose that if it gets the council tax payers of Lambeth to stop thinking about the fraud within council operations its a good thing (for the council)..
But lets please keep Christmas until December..
I understand they were to be called 'Celebration Lights' rather than 'Celebrity Lights', but only in Vauxhall and Streatham. In Clapham they were to be called 'Winter Lights', in Brixton no decision on nomenclature had been taken and in Norwood, still 'Christmas Lights'.
The decision was taken by officers without consulting councillors. Suffice it to say, councillors (except those in Norwood where sense prevailed) are not very pleased.
The decision was taken by officers without consulting councillors. Suffice it to say, councillors (except those in Norwood where sense prevailed) are not very pleased.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Jangla said:
very true. After all the Romans did it as well. Look at the number of pre Roman religous sites like Bath which were incorporated.
And that is the crux of the matter if you ask me.fanta said:
The term "Christmas Lights" cannot be considered offensive, in itself, to anyone, of any religion. I am not offended by anyone of any religion calling any of their festivals and associated material support whatever they like.
What could be considered an actual issue would be the fact that in a diverse society there is a single approach to holiday times, celebrations, weekly religious day etc. so that everyone, of whatever culture or religion, is forced to fit the Christian calendar. Whilst the UK remains a predominantly Chriistian country then I think it is entirely acceptable that the norm remains the Christian calendar. If you went to a country with a different predominant religion then you would accept their norms to fit with whatever the religion or culture dictates.
But there is no reason why imagination cannot be applied in allowing people of different faiths working to their own calendars alongside the Christian one. Sometimes this will not be possible, but, in my experience an awful lot could be done to accomodate others with little if any disruption (e.g. arranging work rotas so that people who want Saturday or any other day as their religious day get it, with any enhanced pay for working on it, etc. being exactly parallel to the Sunday deal for the majority). Likewise any funding, licensing or other matters which favour Christian festivals should be made available to the festivals of others on an equitable basis.
To say that we have Christmas so like it or lump it is (a) not really the way to build a genuinely tolerant multi-cultural society and (b) by definition, institutionally religion-ist. It should not, in my opinion be so.
But then again, this sort of hysterical, ignorant clap-trap does absolutely nothing to further the genuine and honest aims of multiculturalism. It simply gives the ignorant and the bigoted ever ore grounds for saying "It's all political correctness gone mad" ... as they do.
If this decision was actually as it has been reported then whoever took it should be sent for re-training with someone who actually understands the real (as opposed to imaginary) issues.
Good point. And from a capitalist point of view, it greatly increases one's market. So it's highly ironic that the left get blamed.Jangla said:
That'd make a lovely Christmas card. Sorry, Winter card.editor said:Bring back a traditional Brixton Christmas!
editor
hiraethified
Just in case anyone hasn't seen it, here's the comparison shots of Christmas at Electric Avenue from the Then and Now section:
1908
22nd Dec 2003
There's progress for you!
1908
22nd Dec 2003
There's progress for you!
editor
hiraethified
There's another good pic here:
http://landmark.lambeth.gov.uk/display_page.asp?section=landmark&id=5216
http://landmark.lambeth.gov.uk/display_page.asp?section=landmark&id=5216
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
What a fantastic photo of Electric Av.
Good post by detective boy. I think with regard to companies people work for, they are pretty good in the main. Well the ones I've known are anyway.
For the Ramadan just passed the peeps here observing it got a good bit of leeway given working in air conditioning without being able to even sip water is a pretty hard days work.
One of the girls went home to India and I believe (I must ask her) she was allowed to take her christmas bank holidays now rather than on the week after christmas.
Thing is though you won't find any of this in Company Handbooks so it's not official.
Good post by detective boy. I think with regard to companies people work for, they are pretty good in the main. Well the ones I've known are anyway.
For the Ramadan just passed the peeps here observing it got a good bit of leeway given working in air conditioning without being able to even sip water is a pretty hard days work.
One of the girls went home to India and I believe (I must ask her) she was allowed to take her christmas bank holidays now rather than on the week after christmas.
Thing is though you won't find any of this in Company Handbooks so it's not official.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
editor said:
There's progress for you!
One word: bleak
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
memespring said:
Or why not go the whole hog with a traditional pre Roman Winter Festival.
'Come on Mr Blair step lively theres plenty of room inside'
Time to dust off my proposed design for Brixton Christmas lights again
Haven't they been called WInter Lights in Brixton for yonks? Elections are coming me thinks and the redoubtable Bernard sallies forth, stately as a galleon.
I very much doubt that Muslims, Jews, Hindus or other faiths are offended by them being called Christmas lights, but if the allegedly majority faith wants to make a generous gesture over the title, at the season of goodwill, then that's fine too.
I very much doubt that Muslims, Jews, Hindus or other faiths are offended by them being called Christmas lights, but if the allegedly majority faith wants to make a generous gesture over the title, at the season of goodwill, then that's fine too.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
And here's another thing. Why, on Tuesday night, in a supposedly Christian country, were the streets filled with, as far as I could see, feral youths, terrorising passers-by with no more policemen to be seen than Michael Howard was able to spot in Brixton, all in pursuit of what appeared to all intents and purposes to be a pagan festival? It's a bloody disgrace...
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