zoooo
zero tolerance for walkers
I KNEW I recognized him.
He came second in 2006.
He was shit then as well.
So you only recognised him after you saw him naked?...
It's Eurovision
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So you only recognised him after you saw him naked?...
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
Miss Potter
hates mice
Our song wasn't bad per se it just wasn't very Eurovision-y. But even if it had been we'd still have been last I suppose
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
If Britain stops entering crappy music then we might stand a chance.
Personally we should go for something completely non-europe and more credible. Wasn't Morrisey rumoured to be interested last year? I'm no fan of his but at least is wouldn't be the borefest of tunes that we've entered for the last few years.
Personally we should go for something completely non-europe and more credible. Wasn't Morrisey rumoured to be interested last year? I'm no fan of his but at least is wouldn't be the borefest of tunes that we've entered for the last few years.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
I'm not too bothered about the fact we're not winning these days, it's the fact that out of 43 countries we've twice come last in the past 6 years and once come next to last. If we honestly were that much worse than everyone else I'd say "fair enough," but I don't think we are and nor do a lot of other people by what I've seen recently.
I think it's time we asked ourselves whether or not we should pull out of this. We can still watch everyone else taking part if we want to.
I think it's time we asked ourselves whether or not we should pull out of this. We can still watch everyone else taking part if we want to.
frogwoman
Let them eat newts
but to be honest this was one of the most entertaining eurovision's there have been ever.
i loved bosnia's entry. i dont know why terry wogan had such a problem with it.
the lack of success of albania was undoubtedly motivated by politics, but this and several other songs were absolutely excellent.
If he decides to pull out of eurovision on the basis of this dodgy result i will lose alot of repect for him ...
i loved bosnia's entry. i dont know why terry wogan had such a problem with it.
the lack of success of albania was undoubtedly motivated by politics, but this and several other songs were absolutely excellent.
If he decides to pull out of eurovision on the basis of this dodgy result i will lose alot of repect for him ...
gorski
customised free radical
Wogan is for tabloids, that kinda "brain" and "feeling"... {SHITE, I WAS WATCHING AND THINKING ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS - WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME?!?!?!?!?
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Imagine, we're not winning, so "it's no longer about music"... if everyone isn't voting for us. Cultural, old-man imperialism, immature narcissism or what?
If you're gonna win with something simplistic [a bland pentatonic melody, poor harmony, with a boom-boom-boom-boom rhythm] that everyone is listening to, willy-nilly [the US, UK, Australian, Irish and alike shite], then you have to come up with something really good and memorable, not this bland shite none can remember afterwards! The Brits and the Irish used to do it - but not any more! Not lately, anyhow! So, off you go to the relegation zone and well deserved! Enough of this tabloid nationalist nonsense already!!!
What happened in EU terms?
1) New geopolitical realities, some of which is going to affect the outcome, sure and some of it will be [but only!!!] partly[!!!] political. Sometimes yesterday's political and even military opponents/enemies are voting for each other's entry, which I find cool, actually!!!
Sometimes Turkey wins with "enemy votes, too" and sometimes Greece, sometimes Croatia and alike...
1a) Small Andorra's, San Marino's, Malta's etc. vote is the same as Germany's, UK's etc. Many more countries from a different cultural circle.
2) More different types of tastes, and there will naturally be grouping in accordance to what one likes/knows best!
3) More mixed Europe, especially in affluent countries needing the migrant workers, most of whom are from Turkey, ex-YU, Greece etc. Such countries will be voting for such songs, close to their cultural background [see Germany and alike votes]. Sometimes it's the new countries with large minorities, giving votes to the alleged "enemy and threat". Those minorities, as well as the ex-pats in the well-off EU, actually bother to get on the phone and vote, as opposed to the blasé and/or cynical majority...
And more, of course... But one needs to bother thinking a bit, knowing a bit, understanding a few things, BEFORE one spouts his gall-blader content onto everybody - deffo not like Wogan!!! I mean, that was a disaster... He is so narcissistic, it hurts!!! He wouldn't shut up, FFS! Talk about the tired old man and self-promotion, someone in love with his own voice and so forth...
Britain needs to change its attitude towards the EU in general, that's for sure! Needs to learn and then change accordingly.
Never mind the Eurovision - but this is just a symptom of the "fucking foreigners playing dirty" bullshit!
I agree that the musical level is sign of the times, though - it's dire... Maybe particularly poor this year...?
]Imagine, we're not winning, so "it's no longer about music"... if everyone isn't voting for us. Cultural, old-man imperialism, immature narcissism or what?
If you're gonna win with something simplistic [a bland pentatonic melody, poor harmony, with a boom-boom-boom-boom rhythm] that everyone is listening to, willy-nilly [the US, UK, Australian, Irish and alike shite], then you have to come up with something really good and memorable, not this bland shite none can remember afterwards! The Brits and the Irish used to do it - but not any more! Not lately, anyhow! So, off you go to the relegation zone and well deserved! Enough of this tabloid nationalist nonsense already!!!What happened in EU terms?
1) New geopolitical realities, some of which is going to affect the outcome, sure and some of it will be [but only!!!] partly[!!!] political. Sometimes yesterday's political and even military opponents/enemies are voting for each other's entry, which I find cool, actually!!!
Sometimes Turkey wins with "enemy votes, too" and sometimes Greece, sometimes Croatia and alike...1a) Small Andorra's, San Marino's, Malta's etc. vote is the same as Germany's, UK's etc. Many more countries from a different cultural circle.
2) More different types of tastes, and there will naturally be grouping in accordance to what one likes/knows best!
3) More mixed Europe, especially in affluent countries needing the migrant workers, most of whom are from Turkey, ex-YU, Greece etc. Such countries will be voting for such songs, close to their cultural background [see Germany and alike votes]. Sometimes it's the new countries with large minorities, giving votes to the alleged "enemy and threat". Those minorities, as well as the ex-pats in the well-off EU, actually bother to get on the phone and vote, as opposed to the blasé and/or cynical majority...
And more, of course... But one needs to bother thinking a bit, knowing a bit, understanding a few things, BEFORE one spouts his gall-blader content onto everybody - deffo not like Wogan!!! I mean, that was a disaster... He is so narcissistic, it hurts!!! He wouldn't shut up, FFS! Talk about the tired old man and self-promotion, someone in love with his own voice and so forth...
Britain needs to change its attitude towards the EU in general, that's for sure! Needs to learn and then change accordingly.
Never mind the Eurovision - but this is just a symptom of the "fucking foreigners playing dirty" bullshit!
I agree that the musical level is sign of the times, though - it's dire... Maybe particularly poor this year...?
Harold Hill
Jay Emm forgot his p/word
Regarding the political aspect, considering Italy doesn't bother with it for artistic reasons (after giving us Spagna, sabrina and Eiffel 65) and Austria didn't bother this year for similar reasons (despite Opus, DJ otzi) can we please just pull out. I'd still enjoy it, I'm sure plenty of others would do too.
If you're not in the 3 blocs surely the way to do well is to get a really fit singer (Greece) it seems.
Although the Russian bloc in particular puzzles me a little. Almost all of eastern Europe HATES Russia in the same way almost all countries that border China hate them. Even if, as suggested, televoting comes from large Russian popualtions in eastern Europe, I always thought thought it would be more likely people would vote for anyone but Russia.
If Kosovo are in it next year, thats another for the balkan bloc.
If you're not in the 3 blocs surely the way to do well is to get a really fit singer (Greece) it seems.
Although the Russian bloc in particular puzzles me a little. Almost all of eastern Europe HATES Russia in the same way almost all countries that border China hate them. Even if, as suggested, televoting comes from large Russian popualtions in eastern Europe, I always thought thought it would be more likely people would vote for anyone but Russia.
If Kosovo are in it next year, thats another for the balkan bloc.
frogwoman
Let them eat newts
Bilan won because he's a very popular singer in Eastern Europe and he's fit - a lot of people would have voted for him even if his song had been completely terrible.
It's no different to people buying CDs of artists here or from the States that are completely terrible just because they're fit. Sad but true.
frogwoman
Let them eat newts
Yeah. I think the political voting thing might be overstated. Although it was predictable that Moldova gave 12 points to Romania, which is basically the same country even tho their song was absolute shit
Albania's was an excellent song and genuinely deserved to win. Its a shame that it didn't.
frogwoman
Let them eat newts
And more, of course... But one needs to bother thinking a bit, knowing a bit, understanding a few things, BEFORE one spouts his gall-blader content onto everybody - deffo not like Wogan!!! I mean, that was a disaster... He is so narcissistic, it hurts!!! He wouldn't shut up, FFS! Talk about the tired old man and self-promotion, someone in love with his own voice and so forth...
Britain needs to change its attitude towards the EU in general, that's for sure! Needs to learn and then change accordingly.
Never mind the Eurovision - but this is just a symptom of the "fucking foreigners playing dirty" bullshit!
I agree that the musical level is sign of the times, though - it's dire... Maybe particularly poor this year...?
Indeed it annoyed me when he was talking over everything. Hes losing it a bit IMO.
maya
timewasting fool (in every universe)
What a travesty- France and the bearded lady chorus should've won!
Bet they lost points because they were singing in, err... French
Finland was great on theatrics (dungeons & dragons cartoon metal), but in the shadow of Lordi it was just seen as more of the same, i suppose...
apparently the lyrics were excellent (something about wolverines galloping in the woods sucking the death bite from their beloved's bosom, or something)
Anyone else noticed that the 'video screen' background art when the Israeli singer was on was glowing skyscrapers?!? oo-err
Bosnia was...'different', with the twee indie boy and the laundry, but... hm.
Yeah, the old man from Croatia was indeed trying to dj-scratch the gramophone...
Armenia had a catchy earworm hook and some ethnic flavouring, but just generic top40 stuff underneath that really (i wanted her to contend w/France for the win, though- it was the only melody i could remember afterwards)
Bet they lost points because they were singing in, err... French
Finland was great on theatrics (dungeons & dragons cartoon metal), but in the shadow of Lordi it was just seen as more of the same, i suppose...
apparently the lyrics were excellent (something about wolverines galloping in the woods sucking the death bite from their beloved's bosom, or something)
Anyone else noticed that the 'video screen' background art when the Israeli singer was on was glowing skyscrapers?!? oo-err
Bosnia was...'different', with the twee indie boy and the laundry, but... hm.
Yeah, the old man from Croatia was indeed trying to dj-scratch the gramophone...
Armenia had a catchy earworm hook and some ethnic flavouring, but just generic top40 stuff underneath that really (i wanted her to contend w/France for the win, though- it was the only melody i could remember afterwards)
