ITALY vs England

Discussion in 'Euro 2012 championship' started by twistedAM, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Well, exactly. Unless they did a Pirlo and fucked it up :mad:

    Didn't Crouch try that once when he was at Liverpool and hit the bar :facepalm: :D
     
  2. Ted Striker

    Ted Striker Foot's on the other hand

  3. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    Let's face it, had England opne it would have been a travesty of justice. Italy were all over em
     
  4. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    No it wouldn't. Both sides created openings, but neither was good enough on the day to score. Italy were not unlucky not to score - they didn't score because their finishing was awful on the day. They created more chances, but they couldn't finish. tbh it would have served Italy right to have lost - it would have made them pay for their inability to finish.
     
  5. gabi

    gabi Banned Banned

    italy weren't exactly fantastico themselves..

    I do question roy's judgement in changing a winning team to accommodate rooney tho. and as an article i read earlier pointed out, why the hell was he travelling to and from the matches in ukraine when he could've been spending the time working on his conditioning..? he looked utterly fucked after 15 minutes last night.
     
  6. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    In the game I saw, Italy were pretty dominant, in possession terms:confused:
     
  7. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    As ever, he was caught behind the press. Drop Rooney and lose, and your career's over before it even started. Play Rooney and lose, while people will question and wonder, they generally still won't call for your head.

    Frustrating, but true.
     
  8. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    If football was decided on points the score would have been 100 - 0.
     
  9. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Doesn't mean they deserved to win. And possession isn't an end in itself. Italy created a fair bit last night, but were let down by their finishing. Spain on Saturday created hardly anything with their possession. You can have most of the possession and still deserve to lose.
     
  10. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Last ditch blocks from defenders count too, no?
     
  11. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    It's a bit of a stretch to say they changed a winning team tbh. They won one and drew one without Rooney, and did the same with him in the team (penalties excepted) so it's not like they were on a massive roll of victories beforehand. I don't really see that it's the press either - he's clearly a better player than Andy Carroll surely?
     
  12. gabi

    gabi Banned Banned

    He's a different class player on his day but he looked a pub player last night, huffing and puffing
     
  13. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    He couldn't hold onto the ball, but if he'd been playing in Pirlo's place in the Italy team, he'd have had options when he looked up. I thought Rooney was very ineffective last night, but I'm not sure how much that was down to the rest of the team too.
     
  14. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    OK then. 96 - 4.
     
  15. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    I don't agree. First half hour, I thought both teams were incisive going forward and it could easily have been about 2-2. After that, Italy started to take control, but a combination of good England defending and bad Italian finishing left the game goalless.
     
  16. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    There's more to football than just scoring or preventing goals. Italy dominated yesterdays game and England were feeble in a way I've seldom seen at major finals.
     
  17. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    No there isn't.
     
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  18. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    I think there is.
     
  19. Pingu

    Pingu Credo

    using my huge and extensive* understanding of football i reckon that Italy outplayed England and deserved the win.

    * by huge and extensive I really mean I know fuck all but cant resist putting my 2ps worth in
     
  20. tommers

    tommers Your disco needs you

    :D Watch out MOTD.
     
  21. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    as usual the choice of penalty takers was a bit of a mystery to me - Rooney - OK, Gerrard OK, Young - should have been ok :facepalm: Cole? WTF - Why didn't Carroll step up, or Walcott?
     
  22. gabi

    gabi Banned Banned

    Cole's a very cool customer basically. Also highly experienced.
     
  23. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    We don't know who was down as 5th. Though may well have been Hart :D
     
  24. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Cole scored against Bayern in the shoot out didnt he? And for Arsenal when they won the 2005 FA Cup. Seemed like a good choice
     
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  25. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    I'd definitely have Cole as a better choice than Carroll or Walcott tbh. Even now with hindsight.
     
  26. Prince Bert

    Prince Bert Banned Banned

    Roy Keane knows his stuff. England are shit and often play like cowardly schoolboys. That's just the way it is.
     
  27. gabi

    gabi Banned Banned

    Ireland's Brave Roy Keane

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  28. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

  29. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    apparently a bit of a kerfuffle in Bedford following last nights game.
     
  30. twistedAM

    twistedAM Left Of The Dial

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