Discussion in 'Euro 2012 championship' started by twistedAM, Jun 20, 2012.
Will John Terry turn up at the semis in his England kit?
But when Ian Rush played in Italy, his wife said the bread tasted funny.
Yeah the flatness of the midfield really does mean the only ball is to the flanks and as England dropped deeper, Young and Milner got forced back by Italy's wing backs.
Bringing on Carroll for Welbeck suggested that Roy was happy enough with that and try and steal a goal.
Shameful way for a nation that hosts one of the best leagues in the world to be playing.
It was like living in a foreign country
One thing we can all agree on, Mark Lawurenceson is an unfunny tedious sad excuse of a commentator
In fairness to Hodgson, he wasn't dealt a great hand with this group of players. I'll be interested to see what conclusions he draws from the whole experience. Since the problems are so widespread it's going to be a bitch to fix.
omg tell me about it!! I didn't realise until recently how strange it was that I can still name the entire team of the Euro 96 squad, but only half of 98 and barely any of 00, 02, 04, 06 etcetc.
The current crop have nothing on the euro 96 bunch.
I was thinking about the extra-time against Germany in that tournament. Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but I remember us being all over them, and really going for it (that famous Gascoigne chance is in extra-time). A long way from this evening...
To be fair to Roy he got England out of the group and realistically that was all that was asked for and expected,he'll be given some leyway for the simple fact that he's only been in the job for 2 months,once the WC qualifiers start the honeymoon period will be over.
Yes. It's a difficult job though.
We have to play a higher line - which means ditching Terry. We have to press teams in possession higher up the pitch - which means ditching Parker and Gerrard. We have to use the ball more intelligently, certainly in the centre, and really out wide too (I mean we ditched Joe Cole for giving the ball away too easily years back, but Ashley Young makes him look like fucking Xavi).
Big egos to off, and big problems to fix.
I was surprised at the number of England fans in the crowd they showed wearing the goalie top also, the TV director seemed to be in love with Balotelli considering the number of times they went to him.
Yeah I don't remember much of the tournament but I'm sure you're right (I was a bit younger than you)
In my memory, it was fairly end to end. Unlike tonight, especially the last 15 minutes.
Ah well at least we can enjoy the rest of the tournament without the stress of wondering if England can win it, if Rooney is fit,how the hell is Milner an international, how Germany could've ripped us a new one etc,looking forward to two cracking semis comming up later this week
Germany had Kuntz up front
Terry was outstanding tonight
England's best player
Apparently Joe Hart made the most completed passes for England tonight.
Yeah, I was 9 at the time. But I do recall thinking: "Kuntz? What's so funny about that?"
According to uefa's castrol index he has been our best all tournament.
Deeply mediocre player, amazing really that he finished up on the winning team that night, considering England's strike force was Shearer and Sheringham.
Only memorable for his surname really
I was 13, I remember him well
Amazingly the playmaker in that German side was Mehmet Scholl
Again, based on twitter so don't know the veracity of it, but someone posted about the number of qualified coaches in some countries. Said something like Germany 35,000, Italy 29,000; Spain 24,000; England 3,000.
I wonder what defoe's thinking tonight.
I'm not sure trying to use Carroll to batter his way through was the right tactic here, whereas an attacking formation on the break of Defoe, Rooney, young and boy wonder plus Gerrard would have been a pretty scary prospect on the break an hour into the game.
Amazing given the amount of money in the English game.
The shame is that most of the money is in the premier league and most of it goes to the players. Whilst they deserve the lion's share, I don't think enough goes to the grassroots game in the country.
I think the way we were set up, we were always going to end up camped in our half, watching the Italians pass it in front of us. We didn't use the ball very well on the counter-attack but I don't think Defoe rather than Carroll would've made the difference.
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